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What Pets Actually Want & Need | Dr. Karolina Westlund

Episode 226 Apr 28, 2025 2h 6m 24 insights
My guest is Dr. Karolina Westlund, Ph.D., a professor of ethology at the University of Stockholm and an expert in animal emotions and behavior who uses science-based methods to improve the lives of animals in human care. We discuss the often overlooked needs of domesticated animals—primarily dogs and cats—and the things we can do to improve their well-being and our relationship with them. We cover how to interpret animal body language, the unique needs of specific dog breeds, and the needs of cats and birds. We also discuss the pros and cons of spaying and neutering and how weaning age impacts a pet’s attachment style. Whether you’re a pet owner, trainer, or simply an animal lover, this episode teaches you how specific pet behaviors are rooted in their immutable biology—and the simple things you can do to vastly improve your pets’ health and well-being, as well as your relationship with them. Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.
Actionable Insights

1. Foster Secure Pet Attachment

Foster secure attachment in pets, as this helps them learn self-regulation, making them better able to cope with new or stressful exposures without becoming overly anxious or fearful.

2. Avoid Early Puppy Weaning

Avoid weaning puppies too early (e.g., before 8 weeks), as this may predispose them to insecure attachment and hinder their ability to self-regulate later in life.

3. Socialize Kittens Early

To foster highly social cats, handle young kittens (2-8 weeks old) for at least an hour a day, engaging in interaction and play; less than 15 minutes a day will result in more aloof but not fearful cats.

4. Implement Dog Nose Work

Engage dogs in “nose work” (finding specific scents in an area) to promote their natural sniffing behavior, as it helps regulate arousal, calming anxious dogs and energizing depressed ones, leading to positive emotional states.

5. Understand Dog Breed Drives

Understand your dog’s breed-specific predatory sequence behaviors (e.g., sniffing, pointing, chasing, grabbing, killing, eating) and provide outlets for these innate drives to offer them a good life.

6. Allow Natural Foraging Behaviors

Provide opportunities for pets to express their natural food-getting behaviors, rather than simply serving food on a plate, as suppressing these drives can lead to problem behaviors.

7. Use Food Puzzles & Scatter Feeding

Instead of serving food in a bowl, use scatter feeding or food puzzles (like snuffle mats) to make animals work for their food, extending feeding time and engaging their natural foraging behaviors.

Perform a “consent test” before petting: scratch for a few seconds in a preferred spot, then remove your hand and observe if the animal reinitiates contact or moves away, to ensure they appreciate the interaction.

9. Co-regulate Pet Calmness

When interacting with pets, maintain a calm and relaxed emotional state yourself, as this sends subtle cues that can co-regulate and help relax the animal.

10. Avoid Fast Patting

Avoid fast patting or quick petting, especially with horses, as many animals find this aversive and may work to avoid it, even if humans use it as a reward.

11. Observe Petting Preferences

Pay attention to individual animals’ preferences for petting locations; they may even move to show you which body part they want scratched once they understand this communication.

12. Gradual Pet Introductions

When introducing new pets (especially cats), do so gradually: start by exchanging scents, then allow them to hear, then see, and finally allow physical contact, to reduce aggression risk.

13. Feed Multiple Cats Separately

If you have multiple cats, feed them in separate locations to reduce heightened arousal and conflict, as cats are solitary hunters and prefer to eat alone.

14. Separate Cat Food & Litter

Do not place a cat’s litter box next to its food, as cats naturally avoid eliminating close to where they eat, and this setup can lead to problems.

15. Address Cat Urination Issues

If an indoor cat urinates outside the litter box, map the locations: if at windows or doors, it may be territorial marking; if elsewhere, it could indicate pain or litter box aversion.

16. Avoid Hugging Animals

Avoid hugging animals you like, especially new ones, as many animals perceive this primate behavior as restraint and find it scary.

17. Rethink Dog Dominance Training

Reframe dog training away from human-dog dominance concepts (e.g., dog walking behind you) and instead focus on learning systems that influence behavior.

18. Consider Neutering Alternatives

Discuss alternatives like vasectomies or chemical castration with a veterinarian, and evaluate the procedure’s timing based on breed, gender, and age, due to potential behavioral and health impacts.

19. Interpret Dog Tail Wags

Observe the direction of a dog’s predominant tail wag: a wag to the dog’s left side is associated with negative emotional states, while a wag to the dog’s right side is associated with positive emotional states.

20. Interpret Cat Eye Direction

Observe which eye a cat uses to look at a stimulus: left eye forward often indicates fear, while right eye forward often indicates attraction.

21. Provide Breed-Specific Toys

Provide toys or objects that allow dogs to express their breed-specific predatory drives, such as giving poodles something to “rip apart” (post-kill ripping behavior).

22. Reinforce Early Predatory Stages

For dogs that tend to chase wildlife, train them to stay in the early parts of the predatory sequence (sniffing, pointing, eyeing) and reinforce these behaviors to prevent unwanted chasing.

23. Choose Dog Breed for Lifestyle

Carefully consider your lifestyle (e.g., city apartment vs. farm) and choose a dog breed that is best suited to adapt to that specific environment and activity level.

24. Optimize Horse Living Conditions

Avoid early weaning and single housing for horses, and provide opportunities for prolonged foraging (up to 16 hours a day) to prevent problem behavior and better match their natural drives.