← Huberman Lab

Overcoming Guilt & Building Tenacity in Kids & Adults | Dr. Becky Kennedy

Episode 211 Jan 13, 2025 3h 39m 20 insights
My guest is Becky Kennedy, Ph.D., a clinical psychologist, renowned expert on parent-child relationships and founder of Good Inside, an educational platform for parents and parents-to-be. We discuss how to learn, embody and teach better emotional processing, leading to healthier relationships in parenting, work, romantic partnerships and friendships. Dr. Kennedy shares practical strategies for managing guilt, building frustration tolerance and nurturing emotional intelligence, as well as the impact of technology on emotional processing. This conversation aims to empower listeners to cultivate resilient, loving and supportive connections across all areas of life. Sponsors AG1: https://drinkag1.com/huberman Wealthfront*: https://wealthfront.com/huberman Our Place: https://fromourplace.com/huberman Joovv: https://joovv.com/huberman LMNT: https://drinklmnt.com/huberman Eight Sleep: https://eightsleep.com/huberman *This experience may not be representative of the experience of other clients of Wealthfront, and there is no guarantee that all clients will have similar experiences. Cash Account is offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC, Member FINRA/SIPC. The Annual Percentage Yield (“APY”) on cash deposits as of December 27,‬ 2024, is representative, subject to change, and requires no minimum. Funds in the Cash Account are swept to partner banks where they earn the variable‭ APY. Promo terms and FDIC coverage conditions apply. Same-day withdrawal or instant payment transfers may be limited by destination institutions, daily transaction caps, and by participating entities such as Wells Fargo, the RTP® Network, and FedNow® Service. New Cash Account deposits are subject to a 2-4 day holding period before becoming available for transfer. Timestamps 00:00:00 Dr. Becky Kennedy; LA Fires 00:03:13 Emotions, Parents & Kids, Information, Tools: Story; “Right to Notice” 00:11:24
Actionable Insights

1. Prioritize Self-Care & Growth

Make self-care and personal growth your primary job as a parent or leader, as it frees others (especially children) from the burden of managing your emotions and allows them to thrive with greater ease and peace. This involves understanding your own needs, setting boundaries, and building a support network.

2. Provide Coherent Emotional Narratives

When experiencing strong emotions, provide a clear, truthful story to children and others, explaining what you’re feeling and why. The absence of information or a false narrative is more destabilizing than the truth, as humans need stories to process experiences and avoid unformulated affect.

3. Differentiate Guilt from Others’ Feelings

Recognize true guilt as feeling out of alignment with your own values, which is a useful signal for reflection and change. Distinguish this from taking on others’ emotions or feeling responsible for their discomfort, which is not guilt but a tendency to absorb external feelings at the expense of your own needs.

4. Cultivate Frustration Tolerance

Actively teach and model frustration tolerance, recognizing that the ’learning space’ between unskilled and skilled is inherently frustrating. Embrace frustration as a necessary component for developing capability and resilience, rather than shielding children or yourself from it.

5. Practice Relationship Repair

Embrace ‘messing up’ as an essential first step to practicing repair, which is the most important relationship strategy. Take ownership of your actions (e.g., ‘I’m sorry I yelled’), explain your own emotional management, and reassure others that your actions are your responsibility, not their fault.

6. Seek Feedback from Children/Team

Regularly ask children or team members for one manageable and real thing you could do to be a better parent or leader. Differentiate their surface-level words from their underlying needs, feelings, or fears by asking clarifying questions, as learning more about their position does not weaken yours.

7. Embody Authority with Purpose

Own your role as an authority figure (parent, boss) by setting up systems for success and making decisions that prioritize safety and long-term well-being. Communicate that your actions stem from your role and love, even if they cause temporary conflict or inconvenience, as this provides a sense of security and protection.

8. Establish Emotional Boundaries

Practice ‘gazing in’ to understand your own emotional state before ‘gazing out’ to others’ emotions, especially if you tend to be emotionally porous. Use concrete grounding exercises (e.g., ‘my feet are on the ground,’ naming five objects) to reset boundaries and remind yourself, ‘I am the pilot, not the turbulence,’ and ‘I’m safe, this isn’t an emergency.’

9. Employ Most Generous Interpretation

When someone projects their feelings onto you or behaves in a confusing way, practice the ‘most generous interpretation’ of their behavior. In heated moments, ‘do nothing’ externally by softening your physical and emotional stance, managing your own feelings internally, and addressing chronic issues in calmer times.

10. Break Down Hard Tasks

If a task feels too hard to start, apply Ms. Edson’s advice: the first step isn’t small enough. Continuously break down the task into smaller, more manageable steps until you can achieve a ‘win,’ building capability and momentum.

11. Discuss Emotions in Calm Moments

Engage in ’emotion talk’ with children when emotions are not actively high, teaching them that feelings are normal, have names, and provide information. Share your own struggles and how you navigate them to model emotion regulation and normalize imperfection.

12. Accept Consolation with Limits

When sad, it’s okay to accept comforting gestures from children (e.g., a hug, a cup of water), affirming their empathy. However, clearly delineate that your emotions are yours to manage and that their primary role is to be a child, not to parent you.

13. Model Personal Struggle & Growth

Share your own experiences of struggle, effort, and overcoming challenges with children, such as difficulties with a crossword puzzle or learning a new skill. This models resilience, normalizes imperfection, and provides a powerful lesson in emotion regulation and capability.

14. Be Honest About Your Values

Clearly articulate your personal values and boundaries to those in your relationships, whether it’s about communication preferences or personal time. Being vocal about your values helps others ’locate’ and respect you, fostering healthier interactions.

15. Embrace ‘Slow Isn’t Low’

Actively counteract the societal pressure for immediate gratification and constant stimulation by valuing ‘slow’ moments and activities. Consciously create physical barriers (e.g., putting phones in a box) to reduce tethering to technology and appreciate deeper, less ‘stim’ interactions.

16. Use Storytelling to Overcome Shame

When children (or adults) are stuck in shame or lying, share personal stories of your own past imperfections or struggles. This vulnerability helps them feel less alone and unfreezes them from shame, creating a safe space for honesty and learning without punishment.

17. Use Play & Song for Skill Building

Incorporate playful methods, like silly songs or role-playing, to teach children coping skills for frustration or difficult tasks. This makes learning engaging and helps them internalize self-regulation strategies in a memorable way.

18. Invest in Parenting Education

Actively seek out resources, coaches, or programs for parenting education, just as you would for any other important skill or career. Recognize that effective parenting does not come naturally and investing in learning is crucial for feeling empowered and capable.

19. Whisper Affirmations to Children

Spend a few extra minutes at night whispering affirmations to your child, such as ‘There’s nothing you could ever do that would make me stop loving you’ or ‘You’re a really good kid.’ This simple act creates a sacred, intimate connection and reinforces their inherent worth.

20. Slow Down Communication Responses

Implement a personal rule to pause before responding to non-urgent communications, especially when feeling heightened emotion (e.g., elevated pulse rate). This practice allows for more thoughtful, less reactive interactions and helps manage the overwhelming demands of constant digital tethering.