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Esther Perel: Relationships and How They Shape Us #119

Jun 30, 2020 1h 29m 31 insights
As human beings, relationships are fundamental to who we are. We know that relationships can be a big source of happiness and fulfillment in our lives but they can also be one of the major sources of stress. So, why is it that we often find relationships so hard? In this conversation, I speak to arguably one of the world’s leading and most original thinkers on modern relationships, the wonderful, Esther Perel, who has long been on my dream guest list. We talk about the many differences between relationships of the past and the relationships of now. How we are now all under pressure not only to have the perfect relationship, but also to portray this illusion to others as well. Esther believes that it’s the quality of our relationships that determines the quality of our lives. And who we are is actually a combination of how we see ourselves and how others see us. We only really get to know ourselves through our interactions with others. We talk about the idea that we are not one person but different with each person – and rather than being one-way, all interactions are reciprocal. We discuss the value of couples’ counselling and whether it’s something all relationships, healthy or otherwise, need. Reassuringly, we learn that there’s no such thing as a perfect relationship, they all follow a rhythm of harmony, disharmony and repair. Esther and I touch and expand on our own situations and how the family history and values you bring to a relationship or marriage impacts the dynamic between you. She talks us through how much the concept of marriage has changed over the past century, and how it’s a tall order to ask just one person in our lives to meet all of our needs – needs which once would have been shared across our extended families and communities. This episode is a joyous celebration of all the relationships in our lives. It’s challenging, poignant but ultimately hugely practical. Esther offers some wonderful examples of practices we can all start implementing today, from rituals to build strength in our intimate relationships, to advice on reframing criticism or starting difficult conversations at work. The upshot? Rather than hoping others will change, we can be the change ourselves. It was a great pleasure to speak with such an incredible lady and I know that you will get a lot of value from hearing what she has to say. Show notes available at: https://drchatterjee.com/119 Follow me on instagram.com/drchatterjee/ Follow me on facebook.com/DrChatterjee/ Follow me on twitter.com/drchatterjeeuk
Actionable Insights

1. Change Yourself to Change Others

To initiate change in others, focus on altering your own behavior and the narrative you hold, as your actions dynamically influence the entire relationship interplay.

2. Prioritize Play, Pleasure, Joy

Do not defer play, pleasure, joy, and fun, especially during times of crisis, as these experiences are fundamental to humanity and essential for maintaining connection to nature, beauty, laughter, and sensuality.

3. Offer to Listen and Validate

In conversations, offer to simply listen, aiming to give the other person’s point of view space and validity without needing to agree, recognizing that multiple experiences coexist in a relationship.

4. Cultivate a ‘State of Yes’

Before initiating a difficult conversation, consciously cultivate an open and receptive ‘state of yes’ within yourself, as this mindset improves the chances of constructive dialogue.

5. Create a Relationship Ritual

Establish a consistent ritual, like a ’tea ritual,’ where you dedicate focused, uninterrupted time to connect with your partner, reinforcing that your relationship matters and fostering appreciation and vitality.

6. Reframe Criticism as a Wish

When receiving criticism, try to reframe it as an underlying wish or desire from the other person, which can help you respond constructively rather than defensively.

7. Respond to Criticism with Gratitude

Instead of defensiveness, respond to criticism by thanking the person for reminding you, acknowledging their high expectations for the relationship, and inviting them to hold you accountable.

8. Rewrite Your Relationship Story

If you are stuck in a toxic or unhelpful narrative about your relationship, actively work to rewrite that story, as changing the narrative can change the experience and dynamics.

9. Understand Relationship Dynamics

Recognize that relationships inherently involve a continuous rhythm of connection, disconnection, and reconnection, rather than expecting constant harmony.

10. Know Yourself Through Others

Understand that you only truly know yourself through your interactions with others, as your self-perception is influenced by how others see you and how you engage with them.

11. Understand Yourself for Better Relationships

Invest in understanding yourself better, as this self-awareness allows you to show up in relationships more meaningfully and with less personal baggage, improving the dynamic.

12. Recognize Reciprocal Actions

Cultivate awareness that your actions provoke reactions in others, and their reactions then influence your subsequent actions, understanding that relationships are a continuous, reciprocal dynamic.

13. Alter Habitual Responses

If you find yourself in repetitive negative conversational patterns, consciously try saying something different than your usual response to change the dynamic and rewrite the relationship story.

14. Implement Routines, Rituals, Boundaries

Consciously establish routines, rituals, and boundaries in your relationships to provide structure, meaning, and protection, especially during challenging times.

15. Incorporate Touch and Eye Contact

Actively incorporate touch and eye contact into your daily interactions with those in your household, as physical connection is a powerful source of soothing, calming, and grounding.

16. Utilize Face-to-Face and Side-by-Side Interactions

Engage in both face-to-face conversations for direct connection and side-by-side activities (like walks or car rides) for a relaxed intimacy that can facilitate deeper conversations.

17. Move Together to Connect

Engage in activities that involve physical movement, such as walking, as motion liberates and releases energy that can transform into deeper connection.

18. Lead with Positivity in Conversations

When approaching difficult conversations, lead with a positive stance, as this approach tends to yield better outcomes than starting with negativity.

19. Prioritize Listening in Difficult Conversations

When engaging in challenging conversations, understand that the essence lies not just in what you say, but critically, in how well you listen to the other person.

20. Initiate Difficult Conversations with Value

Begin challenging conversations by acknowledging the discomfort of the topic but emphasizing that the relationship matters too much to avoid addressing it.

21. Identify Core Conflict Themes

When facing relationship impasses, analyze the underlying themes such as power, control, care, closeness, recognition, and integrity, as most conflicts revolve around these fundamental issues.

22. Incorporate Humor into Difficulties

Remember to incorporate humor even in the midst of crisis or challenging conversations, as it can be a necessary element for maintaining humanity and perspective.

23. Develop Workplace Relational Intelligence

Cultivate relational intelligence in the workplace, as it is now considered a core skill for business success and employee retention, impacting job satisfaction and performance.

24. Prioritize Work Relationships

Understand that the quality of your relationships at work significantly impacts your overall well-being, including sleep, making them a crucial area to prioritize.

25. Engage in Relationship Therapy Broadly

Improve your relationships by engaging in ‘relationship therapy’ through diverse means like listening to podcasts, reading books, and discussing with friends, not solely through formal therapy sessions.

26. Listen to Esther Perel’s Podcast

If you are struggling with relationships, listen to Esther Perel’s podcast ‘Where Should We Begin?’ to gain tools and insights from real couples’ stories that you can apply to your own life.

27. Share Relationship Challenges

Combat the pressure of portraying a perfect relationship by openly sharing your struggles and asking others about their challenges, fostering mutual support and learning.

28. Challenge Perfection Pressure

Recognize and challenge the societal pressure to constantly portray a perfect relationship, understanding that seeking improvement does not equate to a ‘bad’ relationship or personal failure.

29. Redefine Relationship Success

Understand that longevity alone is not the sole marker of a successful relationship; sometimes, leaving a relationship for good reasons, when options exist, can also be commendable.

30. Recognize Relational Identity

Understand that you are not one fixed person, but rather different with each individual, as you are shaped by the specific relationship dynamic and interactions.

31. Diversify Relationship Rituals

Explore various activities like walks, sitting on a bench, or shared experiences to create rituals that consistently communicate ’nothing else matters at this moment but us,’ fostering connection and presence.