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Esther Perel: How to Feel More Connected, Respected And Valued At Work & Home #557

May 20, 2025 1h 21m 38 insights
Are we expecting too much from our jobs - and is it costing us our health, relationships and happiness?   This week I’m delighted to welcome back someone who is regarded as one of the most insightful and original voices on modern relationships, the psychotherapist Esther Perel. Fluent in nine languages, Esther has her own therapy practice in New York City, serves as an organisational consultant for multiple Fortune 500 companies and is also the author of the New York Times Bestselling books, ‘Mating in Captivity’ and ‘The State of Affairs’.   Although Esther is probably best known for her teachings and wisdom on our romantic relationships, more recently she has turned her attention to our work relationships. The occasion for this appearance on my podcast is to celebrate the release of her brand new 100-question card game designed to transform your work culture – one story and one relationship at a time.   In this thought-provoking conversation, we explore how our expectations of the workplace have shifted dramatically – and why it’s creating both opportunity and strain. Esther shares that in the past, work was primarily about survival, duty and financial stability. But today, many of us are looking to our jobs to provide identity, belonging, fulfilment and even self-worth.   We discuss: Esther’s four key pillars of healthy workplace relationships – trust, belonging, recognition and collective resilience – and why these needs mirror those in our romantic lives How unresolved workplace issues can lead to emotional exhaustion, poor health choices and a reduced capacity to connect at home How our increasingly digital lives are reducing the everyday social skills we need to connect, communicate and collaborate How our personal relationship history – our “unofficial CV” – shows up at work and influences how we handle authority, conflict, feedback and boundaries Why managing conflict well can deepen connection – and how curiosity and honest self-reflection can transform how we show up in all areas of life Throughout our conversation, Esther offers compassion and clarity, breaking down complex emotional patterns into simple, human truths we can all relate to – and, most importantly, act on.    She encourages us to approach work relationships not as transactional, but as relational, inviting us to bring the same level of curiosity, empathy, and accountability that we would bring to any meaningful connection.   At a time when so many of us are feeling isolated or overwhelmed, Esther’s advice shows that even small shifts in how we relate, listen and respond can spark meaningful change at work, with our families and ourselves. I hope you enjoy listening.   Support the podcast and enjoy Ad-Free episodes. Try FREE for 7 days on Apple Podcasts https://apple.co/feelbetterlivemore.  For other podcast platforms go to https://fblm.supercast.com.   Thanks to our
Actionable Insights

1. Examine Your Role in Conflicts

To achieve lasting change in recurring relationship issues, be willing to look at your own role in those problems. This self-awareness is the essential starting point for improvement.

2. Change Yourself to Change Others

To effectively change how others interact with you, focus on changing your own behavior first. By altering your usual responses, you can break established patterns and influence the relationship dynamic.

3. Identify What You’re Fighting For

When experiencing conflict, reframe your perspective by focusing on the underlying needs or values you are fighting for (e.g., power, closeness, recognition) rather than just the specific topic. This helps to understand the core issues at stake.

4. Self-Reflect on Recurring Issues

If you find yourself in recurring problematic situations, honestly assess your own role, recognizing that you are the constant factor. This self-reflection is crucial for identifying what you could do better and fostering personal growth.

5. Confront Self Without Shame

Approach self-confrontation with self-awareness and kindness, acknowledging struggles without immediately falling into shame or contempt. This allows for genuine growth and the development of new interpersonal capacities.

6. Practice Kind Self-Communication

Communicate with yourself with clarity and kindness, avoiding blame, contempt, or harsh criticism. This internal dialogue should be a voice you can listen to, fostering growth rather than internal resistance.

7. Master the Art of Listening

To significantly improve conversations, focus intently on your ability to listen effectively. Good listening shapes the other person’s speaking and is crucial for understanding and productive dialogue.

8. Initiate Difficult Conversations

If you experience friction, initiate a conversation by acknowledging the challenge and asking if the other person is open to discussing it. This direct approach can open a dialogue and release built-up tension.

9. Apologize First for Strength

When addressing friction, consider being the first to apologize, as this is a position of strength and confidence. It often leads to a more receptive response from the other person and can de-escalate conflict.

10. Listen Without Needing to Agree

When engaging in difficult conversations, focus on listening to understand the other person’s perspective, even if you don’t agree with it. Recognize that others may have a completely different experience or story about the same event.

11. Avoid Blame in Conflict

Engage in ‘good conflict’ by actively avoiding constant blame, defensiveness, and externalizing fault. Productive conflict involves accountability and a willingness to understand underlying issues without accusation.

12. Prioritize Workplace Relationships

Recognize that no amount of perks or benefits can compensate for miserable work relationships. Focus on improving these connections, as they are crucial for overall well-being, performance, and job satisfaction.

13. Address Work Stress to Improve Self-Care

Understand that unresolved work stress, such as feeling undervalued, can lead to unhealthy coping mechanisms at home, including increased sugar consumption, alcohol use, or excessive social media scrolling. Actively addressing work-related friction can positively impact your self-care behaviors.

14. Build Four Relationship Pillars

Focus on cultivating the four key pillars of healthy relationships: trust, belonging, recognition, and collective resilience. These dimensions are crucial for fostering strong connections in both personal and professional contexts.

15. Cultivate Collective Resilience

Reframe resilience not just as an individual trait, but as a collective ability to tap into available resources as a group, especially in the workplace. This shared capacity allows for flexible adaptation to change.

16. Understand Your Relational Resume

Recognize that you bring an ‘unofficial resume’ of your relationship history to work, influencing how you deal with authority, change, conflict, and accountability. Self-awareness of this history can help you improve interactions.

17. Practice Accountability and Apology

Take responsibility for your actions, admit mistakes, and offer sincere apologies when appropriate. This demonstrates accountability and builds essential trust in all relationships.

18. Manage Credit and Self-Worth

Reflect on how you handle credit and recognition at work; avoid taking undue credit due to insecurity, and ensure you stand up for yourself and claim credit for your own contributions, rooted in a strong sense of self-worth.

19. Engage in Direct Confrontation

Understand the importance of direct confrontation when necessary, rather than relying on others to fight your battles or say difficult things on your behalf. This fosters personal agency and clarity.

20. Check Assumptions, Avoid Bias

Challenge your assumptions and conclusions about others, especially when you feel dismissed or devalued. Actively check reality to avoid confirmation bias and prevent yourself from falling into a victim mentality.

21. Initiate Small Conversations to Release Tension

Recognize that holding onto unresolved friction is like psychological bloating; initiating even a small conversation can pierce the tension, release pressure, and reduce your personal stress, even if the relationship doesn’t fully transform.

22. Recognize Readiness for Change

Understand that true personal change occurs when there is a genuine readiness, either out of necessity or a strong internal motivation after repeated experiences. This readiness is what ultimately drives transformation.

23. Identify Growth Edges and Limitations

Understand your developmental edges and acknowledge your limitations when seeking personal change. This prevents overextending yourself and ensures sustainable progress rather than giving up prematurely.

24. Gain Clarity on Needed Changes

Achieve clarity on what specific behaviors or patterns need to change by observing evidence of their impact. This clear understanding is essential for effective self-confrontation and targeted improvement.

25. Process Emotions of Change

Understand and process the emotional intensity that often accompanies change, such as feelings of loss, regret, or guilt. Acknowledging these emotions is an integral part of the internal workflow for transformation.

26. Practice Social Skills Regularly

Actively practice and cultivate social skills, as they are diminishing in an increasingly contactless world but are more needed than ever for connection, communication, and collaboration.

27. Create Unstructured Social Play

Seek or create opportunities for unstructured social interaction, similar to a playground, where you can practice social negotiation, deal with differences, and learn to adapt in unscripted ways.

28. Embrace Friction and Uncertainty

Actively practice experimentation, being wrong, shifting direction, and dealing with uncertainty, rather than relying on frictionless technologies that diminish these essential relational skills.

29. Ensure Authentic Apologies

When apologizing, ensure it comes from a place of genuine remorse and personal reflection, rather than relying on AI-generated responses that lack authenticity and personal accountability.

30. Prioritize Shared Meals

Make a conscious effort to share meals with others, as eating is a fundamental social ritual that fosters connection and counters the trend of increasing self-imposed isolation.

31. Design for Connection, Not Isolation

Consciously design your living and working environments to encourage interaction and connection with others, rather than passively accepting designs that promote comfortable isolation.

32. Engage in Direct Difficult Conversations

Prioritize having direct, difficult conversations rather than avoiding conflict or disengaging electronically. Direct engagement is crucial for resolving disagreements and deepening relationships.

33. Make the Decision Right

Instead of striving for the ‘perfect’ choice, focus on framing and making sense of your decisions in a way that makes them ‘right,’ embracing uncertainty and personal agency.

34. Seek Belonging to Counter Isolation

Actively seek a sense of belonging within your communities and workplaces, as it connects you with something bigger than yourself and acts as a powerful antidote to feelings of isolation.

35. Seek Recognition and Respect

Actively ensure you feel valued, seen, recognized, and respected for your contributions, as this is a fundamental human need in all relationships, both personal and professional.

36. Set a Positive Storytelling Tone

When facilitating group discussions or using tools like card games, be mindful that the first person to share a story often sets the tone for the entire group, influencing openness and engagement.

37. Allow Voluntary Participation

When using tools for team building or sensitive discussions, allow participants the option to pass on questions they don’t resonate with or feel uncomfortable answering, fostering a safe and inclusive environment.

38. Offer Card Exchange in Groups

In group activities using prompt cards, offer participants the option to exchange a card they don’t want to answer with another person who might have a relevant story, promoting broader engagement and participation.