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#96 - David Epstein: How a range of experience leads to better performance in a highly specialized world

Mar 9, 2020 2h 37m 32 insights
<p>In this episode, David Epstein, best-selling author of Range and The Sports Gene, discusses the evidence around the most effective ways to improve long-term performance and learning in our specialties, our sports, our careers, and our lives. David makes a compelling case that a range of experiences and skills are more likely to lead to expert performance compared to early specialization, and offers an in-depth critique of the much-publicized 10,000-Hour Rule. David also provides insights into our role as parents in the process of encouraging exposure to many things, the concepts of when to push them, when to give them space, and when to allow them to quit. Furthermore, David goes into many other fascinating topics such as the role of talent, genetics, and practice in reaching expert status, what differentiates a kind vs. wicked learning environment, the importance of "informal training," and many case studies that suggest strategies for short-term success may not be best for long-term development.</p> <p>We discuss:</p> <ul dir="auto"> <li> <p dir="auto">A shared interest in Ayrton Senna, and pondering the value in participating in sports [2:30];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">Examining the 10,000-Hour Rule, and the importance of questioning existing dogma [15:00];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">How the medical profession is affected by bad science, and the importance of understanding individual variation [28:00];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">David's most surprising findings when writing The Sports Gene [35:45];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">Kind versus wicked learning environments [40:45];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">How and why strategies for short-term success may not be best for long-term development [47:30];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">Contrasting the success stories of Tiger Woods and Roger Federer—which path is more common, and an argument for diversified training and experiences [59:15];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">Is there an age-range or "critical window" during which exposure is necessary to reach a certain level of proficiency or mastery of a skill or knowledge? [1:14:00];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">How diversifying your interests and unraveling your identity from your speciality could lead to more enjoyment and actually improve performance in your speciality [1:22:15];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">The undervalued importance of "informal training" [1:29:15];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">Advice for increasing match quality in your work—where interests and abilities align—to optimize both job performance and fulfillment [1:41:15];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">Would David want his own son to attend college given the current state of higher education? [1:51:15];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">The role of a parent—how to encourage sampling, when to push them, when to allow them to quit, and insights from the childhoods of Tiger Woods and Wolfgang Mozart [1:55:45];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">The need for varied perspectives and the ability to improvise—insights gained from the Space Shuttle Challenger tragedy [2:08:45];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">How a diversified background and identity could be the difference in life or death—the Hotshot firefighters case study [2:22:15];</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">David's takeaways from the inspiring story of Frances Hesselbein [2:29:00]; and</p> </li> <li> <p dir="auto">More.</p> </li> </ul> <p>Learn more: <a href="https://peterattiamd.com/">https://peterattiamd.com/</a><br /> <br /> Show notes page for this episode: <a href="https://peterattiamd.com/davidepstein">https://peterattiamd.com/davidepstein</a><br /> <br /> Subscribe to receive exclusive subscriber-only content: <a href="https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/">https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/</a><br /> <br /> Sign up to receive Peter's email newsletter: <a href="https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/">https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/</a><br /> <br /> Connect with Peter on <a href="http://Facebook.com/PeterAttiaMD"><u>Faceboo</u></a><u>k</u> | <a href="http://Twitter.com/PeterAttiaMD"><u>Twitter</u></a> | <a href="http://Instagram.com/PeterAttiaMD"><u>Instagram</u></a>.</p>
Actionable Insights

1. Embrace Desirable Difficulties

Prioritize learning methods that are initially harder and focus on conceptual understanding and making connections, rather than narrow, test-tailored procedures. This approach fosters long-term development and better performance in complex challenges, even if it feels less comfortable or yields lower initial scores.

2. Learn Through Practice, Not Theory

Discover your true interests and abilities, known as ‘match quality,’ through active experimentation and reflection on lived experiences. Relying solely on introspection or personality quizzes is insufficient, as genuine understanding of what you want to do comes from doing and then thinking.

3. Cultivate Broad Training

Engage in broad training across various domains to develop flexible conceptual frameworks. This breadth of experience enhances your ability to transfer skills and knowledge to novel or slightly different situations you haven’t encountered before.

4. Diversify Identity and Hobbies

Cultivate serious hobbies or diverse interests outside of your primary profession or passion to diversify your identity and reduce pressure. This practice can prevent burnout, foster new perspectives, and contribute to overall well-being and performance.

5. Be Willing to Drop Tools

In unfamiliar or rapidly changing situations, be willing to abandon ingrained procedures or identity-defining methods, even if it feels counterintuitive. Rigid adherence to familiar ’tools’ can be catastrophic when circumstances demand improvisation.

6. Question Dogma and Axioms

Challenge widely accepted rules or dogma, especially those that oversimplify complex phenomena like the ‘10,000-hour rule.’ This critical mindset helps avoid incorrect assumptions and encourages a more nuanced understanding of reality.

7. Understand Learning Environments

Recognize whether your learning environment is ‘kind’ (clear feedback, recurring patterns) or ‘wicked’ (unclear goals, delayed/inaccurate feedback). This understanding helps you better interpret feedback and adapt your strategies, as wicked environments can lead to incorrect conclusions if not navigated carefully.

8. Derive from First Principles

Prioritize deriving solutions from first principles over memorizing procedures, even if it’s initially more challenging. This approach fosters deeper understanding and yields significant long-term dividends in problem-solving across various fields.

9. Utilize Interleaved Practice

Implement interleaved practice, which involves mixing different problem types, rather than blocked practice (doing one type repeatedly). Despite initial frustration and lower perceived learning, this method significantly enhances learning and problem-solving transfer.

10. Delay Career Specialization

Delaying career specialization allows for broader sampling and a better ‘match quality’ with your chosen path, leading to higher long-term growth rates and reduced likelihood of career changes. While early specializers may gain an initial income lead, late specializers often surpass them by year six.

11. Implement Talent-Based Branching

For organizations and individuals, implement systems like ’talent-based branching’ that allow for coached experimentation across multiple career tracks, followed by reflection. This approach improves ‘match quality,’ retention, and overall fulfillment, proving more effective than monetary incentives alone.

12. Pursue Broad College Education

For aspiring medical students, pursue a broad liberal arts education (e.g., history) rather than a narrow pre-med curriculum in college. This fosters broader thinking and interpersonal skills essential for medicine, as specific scientific knowledge can be learned later.

13. Encourage Diverse Early Activities

For aspiring athletes and their parents, encourage a sampling period with a wide variety of activities and physical skills in early development, delaying specialization. This is the norm for elite athletes, helping them learn about their interests and abilities, and preventing burnout.

14. Avoid Early Sport Specialization

Young athletes should avoid early specialization in a single sport to reduce the risk of adult-style overuse injuries. Diversifying physical activities provides a protective effect, as overuse injuries are strongly predicted by how specialized an athlete is.

15. Vary Activity, Coach Quitting

When someone wants to quit an activity, consider ‘coached quitting’ by varying the activity or allowing a temporary break while keeping a ‘foot in the pool.’ This approach, rather than forcing a binary choice, allows for regeneration and a potential return to the activity with renewed interest.

16. Adopt a Beginner’s Mindset

Regularly engage in learning new skills from a beginner’s mindset, even in related fields, to stay uncomfortable, refresh enthusiasm, and gain new perspectives on your primary work. This practice can reveal new approaches and prevent stagnation.

17. Carry a Big Basket

Approach new learning opportunities with an open mind and a ‘big basket,’ assuming you will always learn something, even from seemingly unrelated or beginner-level activities. This mindset fosters continuous growth and unexpected insights.

18. Beware of Delayed Feedback

Be acutely aware of feedback delays in complex systems, such as project management or remote control. These delays can obscure cause-and-effect relationships, leading to incorrect learning and repeated mistakes, as seen in the ‘mythical man-month’ phenomenon.

19. Value Active Learning

Do not equate ease of learning or perceived fluency with actual deep learning; challenging, active learning methods often lead to better long-term retention and understanding. Students engaged in active learning learn more but often rate themselves and their teachers worse, highlighting a disconnect between feeling and knowing.

20. Account for Individual Variation

Recognize and account for huge individual variation in biological processes or responses to training, rather than relying on single average metrics. This understanding is crucial for personalized and effective interventions, as identical training can yield vastly different outcomes across individuals.

21. Balance Enthusiasm, Development

For parents and coaches, master the art of balancing maintaining enthusiasm with optimal long-term development. This involves knowing when to introduce desirable difficulties and when to allow for easier, more inspirational experiences to prevent burnout.

22. Find Joy in Skill Progress

Seek joy and fulfillment in the continuous process of skill improvement and progress, rather than solely fixating on achieving ultimate mastery or being the ‘best in the world.’ The path towards mastery itself can be more joyous than the destination.

23. Seek Informal Learning

Actively seek out informal learning opportunities and mentorship, such as retaining an expert for specific questions or engaging in self-directed study. This can provide deep, practical knowledge tailored to your needs, often more effectively than formal programs alone.

24. Acknowledge Sensitive Periods

Be aware of sensitive periods for certain skills, such as native language acquisition before age 12 or studying chess patterns by the same age, as missing these windows can significantly impact the likelihood of achieving elite levels. However, most people can still improve at older ages.

25. Practice How-to-Be Leadership

Adopt a leadership philosophy focused on ‘how to be’ rather than merely ‘what to do,’ as exemplified by Frances Hesselbein. This means prioritizing character, being a good example, and admitting when you don’t know something, rather than projecting clairvoyance.

26. Contextualize Grit

Encourage ‘grit’ (perseverance and passion) only after individuals have had a chance to sample various activities and discover what they genuinely want to be gritty in. Applying grit prematurely can lead to misdirected effort and burnout.

27. Reduce Job Change Friction

For individuals and policymakers, reduce friction for job and career changes, for example, by minimizing educational debt or providing universal healthcare. This enables individuals to respond to ‘match quality’ signals and find more fulfilling and successful paths.

28. Read Original Research

Make it a practice to read original research papers, especially for popular concepts, to gain a competitive advantage and avoid misinterpretations from secondary sources. This direct engagement with primary literature helps uncover nuances often lost in subsequent citations.

29. Back Up Scientific Training

For scientific training and education, prioritize foundational learning in scientific thinking, epistemology (how we know what is true), and the anatomy of errors early on, before deep specialization. This broad conceptual understanding is crucial for long-term scientific contribution and avoiding replication crises.

30. Employ Independent Fact-Checkers

For authors and researchers, employ independent fact-checkers for books and publications, focusing on both factual accuracy and interpretation. This rigorous process significantly enhances the credibility and accuracy of published work.

31. Diversify Physical Training

Incorporate learning the basics of other physical disciplines into your training, even if you never intend to perform them professionally. This diversification can vary activity, potentially reduce stress-related injuries, and offer protective effects against overuse.

32. Listen to Deeper Discussions

Don’t be discouraged from listening to a podcast or engaging with a topic even if you’ve heard the guest or subject elsewhere. Longer-format discussions often provide broader, deeper insights that enhance understanding.