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#44 - Jeremy Schaap, ESPN journalist: upsets, doping, triumphs, and the importance of sports

Mar 11, 2019 1h 41m 14 insights
<p>In this episode, Jeremy Schaap, preeminent journalist at ESPN, discusses two of the most incredible upsets in boxing history, both of which Jeremy has expertly covered during his illustrious career, most recently culminating in the 30 for 30 special, 42 to 1. We also discuss his infamous Bobby Knight interview, his coverage of the doping scandals in baseball and cycling, as well as the pressures of following in his father's enormous footsteps who taught him the importance of fairness in journalism. Additionally, we discuss the deeper meaning of sports, what it teaches us, and how he uses sports as a platform to bring light to greater societal issues. </p> <p> </p> <p>We discuss:</p> <ul> <li>Jeremy and Peter's shared obsession with boxing history [5:15];</li> <li>Cinderella Man: The incredible upset of Max Baer by James Braddock, and the rise of the great Joe Louis [9:00];</li> <li>42 to 1: Buster Douglas beats Mike Tyson for one of the most unlikely upsets in the history of sports [23:30];</li> <li>Contrasting fighting styles from "destroyers" to "artists", and comparing the auras of the all-time greats [36:30];</li> <li>Mike Tyson's take on the Douglas fight, what went wrong for Buster Douglas following his victory, and other incredible upsets in sports history [45:30];</li> <li>Ranking the greatest boxers since the 1960s [54:00];</li> <li>Jeremy's famous Bobby Knight interview: A career defining moment [57:00];</li> <li>The pressures of following his father's career path, and what it means to be a fair journalist [1:01:30];</li> <li>The meaning of sports: how it brings us together and gives us a platform for bigger discussions [1:11:00];</li> <li>Jeremy's biggest regret in reporting, the 1998 home run chase, and the doping scandals of baseball and cycling [1:17:30];</li> <li>The biggest and most underreported stories in sports [1:26:45];</li> <li>Best 30 for 30 episodes: Jeremy and Peter pick their favorites [1:31:30];</li> <li>Baseball: Steroids and the hall of fame [1:34:30];</li> <li>Final thoughts on what makes sports so special [1:37:45]; and</li> <li>More.</li> </ul> <p> <span> Learn more at <a href="http://www.peterattiamd.com/"><span><u>www.PeterAttiaMD.com</u></span></a></span></p> <p> <span>Connect with Peter on <a href=""> <span> <u>Facebook</u></span></a> | <a href=""> <span> <u>Twitter</u></span></a> | <a href=""> <span> <u>Instagram</u></span></a>.</span></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Harness Adversity for Strength

Engage in difficult, unconventional work or face personal setbacks, as these experiences can build unexpected strengths and prepare you to seize critical opportunities, much like Braddock’s dock work strengthened his hand for his comeback.

2. Fight for a Greater Purpose

Identify and fight for something much larger than yourself, such as family, honor, or a deeply held belief, as this provides immense motivation and resilience when facing seemingly insurmountable odds, exemplified by Braddock’s fight for his family.

3. Cultivate Total Commitment & Courage

Embrace a personal code of courage, dedication, and total commitment, especially when facing overwhelming challenges, and refuse to quit even when others suggest it, embodying the ethos of fighters like Jim Braddock.

4. Overcome Fear to Defeat Intimidation

To defeat an intimidating opponent or challenge, you must first overcome your own fear and not be mentally defeated before the engagement, as illustrated by Buster Douglas’s ability to face Mike Tyson without being ‘beat before he got in the ring’.

5. Diversify Skills, Avoid One-Dimensionality

Avoid relying solely on one strength or ‘falling in love with your knockout punch,’ as this can lead to laziness, one-dimensionality, and eventual exposure; instead, continuously develop and diversify your skills.

6. Embrace Setbacks as Foundations

View setbacks or ‘blemishes’ in your career not as permanent failures, but as opportunities to build a different, potentially more resilient and enduring kind of success and reputation, as Joe Louis did after his loss to Schmeling.

7. Practice Empathetic, Truth-Seeking Journalism

When engaging in journalism or any form of critical communication, ask tough questions and probe uncomfortable areas, but always do so with empathy, striving to understand the subject’s perspective and prioritizing truth over antagonism.

8. Maintain Skepticism in Exciting Moments

Approach stories or information with a critical and skeptical mindset, even when caught up in exciting or widely celebrated moments, to avoid being misled or accepting narratives at face value, as Jeremy Schaap regretted not doing during the Mark McGuire home run chase.

9. Beware of Sudden Success’s Pitfalls

Be cautious of the chaos and external pressures that can accompany sudden, immense success, as these factors can diminish focus and motivation, leading to a decline in performance, as seen in Buster Douglas’s career after beating Tyson.

10. Acknowledge and Relate to Fear

Recognize that fear is a natural and often present emotion in high-stakes endeavors; developing a relationship with this fear, rather than denying it, is crucial for performance, as even Mike Tyson acknowledged.

11. Leverage Shared Interests for Discussions

Utilize widespread interests like sports as a platform or ’lingua franca’ to initiate and discuss broader societal, cultural, and ethical issues, as these common grounds can connect people and draw attention to important topics.

12. Encourage Activities for Self-Discovery

Encourage participation in challenging activities like sports for the invaluable lessons about oneself, resilience, and character development, rather than solely for the pursuit of professional aspirations.

13. Anticipate Constant Change

Understand that everything changes and nothing remains dominant indefinitely; avoid assuming current trends will last forever and acknowledge the inherent unpredictability of the future, as ’no one can see the future’.

14. Skepticism Towards ‘Clean’ Athletes

In sports known for performance-enhancing drugs, especially those with undetectable substances like human growth hormone, maintain a healthy skepticism about claims of athletes being ‘clean,’ as the true extent of doping is often unknown.