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#341 - Overcoming insomnia: improving sleep hygiene and treating disordered sleep with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia | Ashley Mason, Ph.D.

Mar 24, 2025 2h 5m 62 insights
<p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/ashleymason/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=250324-pod-ashleymason&amp;utm_content=250324-pod-ashleymason-podfeed"> View the Show Notes Page for This Episode</a></p> <p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=250324-pod-ashleymason&amp;utm_content=250324-pod-ashleymason-podfeed"> Become a Member to Receive Exclusive Content</a></p> <p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=250324-pod-ashleymason&amp;utm_content=250324-pod-ashleymason-podfeed"> Sign Up to Receive Peter's Weekly Newsletter</a></p> <p>Ashley Mason is a clinical psychologist and an associate professor at UCSF, where she leads the Sleep, Eating, and Affect (SEA) Laboratory. In this episode, Ashley provides a masterclass on cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBT-I), detailing techniques like time in bed restriction, stimulus control, and cognitive restructuring to improve sleep. She explains how to manage racing thoughts and anxiety, optimize sleep environments, and use practical tools like sleep diaries to track progress. She also offers detailed guidance on sleep hygiene; explores the impact of temperature regulation, blue light exposure, and bedtime routines; and offers guidance on finding a CBT-I therapist, along with sharing practical steps you can take on your own before seeking professional help.</p> <p><strong>We discuss:</strong></p> <ul type="disc"> <li>Defining insomnia: diagnosis, prevalence, and misconceptions [3:00];</li> <li>How insomnia develops, and breaking the cycle with cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia (CBT-I) [7:45];</li> <li>The different types of insomnia, and the impact of anxiety, hydration, temperature, and more on sleep [11:45];</li> <li>The core principles of cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and how CBT-I is used to treat insomnia [20:00];</li> <li>Implementing CBT-I: time in bed restriction, sleep scheduling, and the effect of napping [29:45];</li> <li>Navigating family and partner sleep schedules, falling asleep on the couch, sleep chronotypes, and more [39:45];</li> <li>Key aspects of sleep hygiene: temperature, light exposure, and circadian rhythm disruptions [44:45];</li> <li>Blue light and mental stimulation before bed, and the utility of A-B testing sleep habits [52:45];</li> <li>Other simple interventions that may improve sleep [57:30];</li> <li>Ashley's view on relaxation techniques and mindfulness-based practices [1:02:30];</li> <li>The effectiveness of CBT-I, the role of sleep trackers, and best practices for managing nighttime awakenings [1:04:15];</li> <li>Guidance on intake of food and alcohol for good sleep [1:16:30];</li> <li>Reframing thoughts and nighttime anxiety to reduce sleep disruptions [1:18:45];</li> <li>Ashley's take on sleep supplements like melatonin [1:21:45];</li> <li>How to safely taper off sleep medications like benzos and Ambien [1:26:00];</li> <li>Sleep problems that need to be addressed before CBT-I can be implemented [1:38:30];</li> <li>The importance of prioritizing a consistent wake-up time over a fixed bedtime for better sleep regulation [1:40:15];</li> <li>Process S and Process C: the science of sleep pressure and circadian rhythms [1:45:15];</li> <li>How exercise too close to bedtime may impact sleep [1:47:45];</li> <li>The structure and variability of CBT-I, Ashley's approach, and tips for finding a therapist [1:50:30];</li> <li>The effect of sauna and cold plunge before bed on sleep quality [1:56:00];</li> <li>Key takeaways on CBT-I, and why no one should have to suffer from insomnia [1:58:15]; and</li> <li>More.</li> </ul> <p>Connect With Peter on <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterAttiaMD">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/peterattiamd/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/peterattiamd/">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8kGsMa0LygSX9nkBcBH1Sg">YouTube</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Prioritize Consistent Wake-Up Time

The most important first step to improving sleep is to wake up at the same time every single day, including weekends, to regulate your circadian rhythm.

2. Restrict Bed Use to Sleep & Sex

Strictly associate your bed only with sleep and sex; avoid activities like reading, scrolling on your smartphone, or watching TV in bed to strengthen this association.

3. Implement Time in Bed Restriction

Restrict the total time you spend in bed to closely match the actual amount of sleep your body is currently producing, typically by adding 30 minutes to your average sleep duration.

4. Eliminate Daytime Naps

If you have insomnia, eliminate daytime naps entirely to build sufficient sleep pressure for nighttime sleep, even if you feel tired from a poor night’s sleep.

5. Address Daytime Stress

Deal with sources of stress and anxiety during the day, as unresolved worries can demand attention and disrupt sleep at night.

6. Schedule Worry Time

Set aside a specific, non-negotiable hour each day (e.g., 4 PM) for ‘scheduled worry time’ to address anxieties, allowing you to defer worries and prevent nighttime disruption.

7. Maintain Cool Room Temperature

Keep your bedroom temperature in the mid-60s Fahrenheit (around 18°C) to optimize sleep, and if your feet feel too cold, wear socks.

8. Avoid Down Comforters

Avoid using down comforters, quilted items, or duvets, as they can trap heat and disrupt your body’s natural circadian temperature rhythm, which should be coolest at night.

9. Avoid Eating Before Bed

Refrain from eating any food within three hours of your bedtime to support better sleep quality.

10. Abstain from Alcohol During CBTI

During Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTI) treatment, completely abstain from alcohol to minimize perturbations and allow for accurate assessment of sleep patterns.

11. Discontinue Sleep Supplements

Discontinue all sleep supplements (e.g., melatonin, ashwagandha) during CBTI treatment to observe your body’s natural sleep patterns without external perturbations, as supplements may be ineffective or counterproductive.

12. Establish Consistent Wake Time

Based on your sleep diary, establish a realistic and consistent wake-up time that aligns with your body’s natural pattern, rather than an aspirational one, and adhere to it daily.

13. Calculate Initial Bedtime

After tracking your sleep for seven days, calculate your average actual sleep time, add 30 minutes, and count backward from your chosen consistent wake-up time to determine your initial restricted bedtime.

14. Leave Bed for Mildly Boring Activity

If you wake up in the middle of the night and cannot fall back asleep, get out of bed and engage in a mildly boring, non-stimulating activity in another room until you feel sleepy again, then return to bed.

15. Use Thought Records

Utilize thought records to question negative or dysfunctional thoughts about sleep; write down the thought, how you feel, evidence for and against it, and then create a balanced thought.

16. Track Belief in Worries

If a specific worry consistently wakes you up, track your degree of belief in that thought throughout the day to realize if its perceived truthfulness changes, diminishing its power at night.

17. Remove Sleep Trackers

If you have insomnia, remove all sleep trackers during treatment to reduce anxiety and prevent distress caused by device readings, which can misinterpret sleep quality.

18. Precise Medication Tapering

When tapering off sleep medications, use a gem scale to precisely measure and reduce doses in very small increments, often by crushing pills and dissolving them in water, to manage dependencies.

19. Collaborate with Physician

Always work with your prescribing physician when planning to change or taper sleep medications, ensuring they are explicitly aware and supportive of the plan.

20. Stabilize Meds Before Tapering

Before attempting to taper off sleep medications, stabilize your dose to a consistent amount taken at a consistent time, as attempting to quit from an unstable baseline is unlikely to succeed.

21. Eliminate Mid-Night Sleep Meds

If taking sleep medication, eliminate any middle-of-the-night doses and limit intake to a single, consistent dose taken only before bedtime to prevent erratic use.

22. Pause Taper During Stress

If a major stressful life event occurs during a medication taper, pause the taper and maintain the current stable dose, resuming only when the stress has subsided.

23. Consistently Use CPAP

If you have been prescribed a CPAP machine for sleep apnea, use it every single night, and work with your provider to ensure proper fit and comfort if you are struggling with adherence.

24. Screen for Sleep Apnea

Ask your partner if you snore loudly or gasp for air during the night, as these are signs of potential sleep apnea that should be addressed by a specialist before insomnia treatment.

25. Cut Off Caffeine by 11 AM

Stop all caffeine intake, including decaffeinated coffee (which can still contain significant caffeine), by 11 AM to prevent it from negatively impacting the electrical quality of your sleep.

26. Maintain Caffeine Intake, Adjust Timing

You don’t need to reduce your total caffeine intake, but ensure all of it is consumed before 11 AM to avoid withdrawal symptoms while still improving sleep quality.

27. Take Medications Consistently at Right Time

Ensure you take all medications at the same time every day and at the optimal time of day (e.g., not stimulating meds before bed) to avoid disrupting your circadian rhythm.

28. Use an Eye Mask

Wear an eye mask, especially if you experience early morning awakenings, as even small amounts of light detected through closed eyelids can signal your body to wake up.

29. Block Room Lights

Actively block out any egregious lights in your bedroom, such as alarm clock displays or indicator lights, using methods like electrical tape, to ensure maximum darkness.

30. Avoid Stimulating Digital Content

The primary issue with screens before bed is often the stimulating content (social media, work emails) rather than just blue light; avoid interactive and stressful digital activities.

31. Try Orange Blue-Light Glasses

If you have difficulty falling asleep and already avoid stimulating content, try wearing ugly, wraparound orange-colored blue-light blocking glasses for two hours before bed for two weeks.

32. A/B Test Sleep Interventions

When trying a new sleep intervention, track your sleep using a paper sleep diary for two weeks before and after making the change to empirically assess its effectiveness.

33. Practice Progressive Muscle Relaxation

Practice progressive muscle relaxation (squeezing and releasing muscle groups throughout your body) for a few minutes in bed before sleep to get out of your head and into your body.

34. Avoid Podcasts for Sleep

Do not fall asleep while listening to podcasts or other audio, as this can disrupt sleep and is not conducive to healthy sleep habits.

35. Avoid Fragmented Couch Sleep

Falling asleep on the couch with distractions like TV noise can fragment early-night sleep, potentially disturbing the quality of the deeper slow-wave sleep prioritized in the first half of the night.

36. Recognize Sleepiness Cues

Pay attention to your body’s cues of sleepiness, such as nodding off, heavy eyelids, or warm hands, and go to bed promptly when you notice them.

37. Avoid Comfortable Seating

If you struggle to go to bed when watching TV, sit on an uncomfortable stool instead of a couch to make it less conducive to falling asleep there.

38. Nap in Bed When Sick

If you need to nap due to illness, do so in your bed, not on the couch, to maintain stimulus control and reinforce the association of your bed with sleep.

39. Warm Cold Extremities

If your hands and feet are cold, wear socks or use a small heating pad at the foot of the bed (with auto shut-off) to warm extremities, which can help dump heat from your core and facilitate sleep onset.

40. Warm Foot Bath

Consider taking a warm foot bath before bed, as warming your hands and feet causes vasodilation, helping your body dump heat from its core, which is desirable for falling asleep.

41. Use Cotton Blankets

If you feel cold, use cotton blankets instead of heat-trapping comforters; you can layer two or three if needed to maintain warmth without disrupting core body temperature regulation.

42. Reduce Nighttime Urination

For men 45 and up, reduce fluid intake with and after dinner, and consider adding an electrolyte tab to decrease the frequency of waking up to urinate, thereby reducing the risk of not falling back asleep.

43. Defer Worries

When a worry arises outside of your scheduled worry time, write it down and consciously defer dealing with it until your designated worry period, helping to unclutter your day and mind.

44. Align Bedtime with Sleepiness

Avoid going to bed before your body is naturally ready for sleep; align your bedtime with when your body can actually produce sleep to prevent struggling for hours.

45. Adhere to CBTI Treatment

For effective Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTI), adhere strictly to the treatment plan and complete at least four sessions with a therapist, as adherence and duration are critical for success.

46. Understand CBTI Science

To improve adherence and outcomes, take the time to understand the scientific rationale behind each component of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTI).

47. Self-Guide CBTI with Workbook

If professional CBTI is inaccessible, use the workbook ‘Quiet Your Mind and Get to Sleep’ by Rachel Manber and Colleen Carney for a self-guided approach to the treatment.

48. Avoid Cold Plunges Before Bed

Do not take a cold plunge right before bed, as your body will actively work to warm itself back up afterward, counteracting the desired core body temperature drop needed for sleep.

49. Use Sauna Cautiously Before Bed

If considering a sauna before bed, be mindful of its effect on your heart rate; if your heart rate remains elevated and you don’t have rapid recovery, it may be counterproductive to sleep onset.

50. Manage Hydration Post-Sauna

If using a sauna before bed, be mindful of excessive fluid intake afterward, as drinking too much water can lead to increased nighttime urination and disrupt sleep.

51. Evaluate Late-Night Strenuous Exercise

Consider the trade-offs of engaging in strenuous exercise (e.g., HIIT, intense spin class) late in the evening if it significantly elevates your heart rate and delays your natural bedtime, as it can disrupt sleep onset and overall sleep duration.

52. Relaxing Exercise Before Bed

Engaging in relaxing and calming forms of exercise, such as yoga or stretching, in the evening is generally acceptable if it helps you unwind and doesn’t elevate your heart rate for prolonged periods.

53. Limit Weekend Sleep-Ins

If you have a late night, you can sleep in on one day of the weekend by an hour, but not two days in a row, as sleeping in excessively disrupts your sleep schedule and quality.

54. Don’t ‘Make Up’ Lost Sleep

Avoid trying to ‘make up’ for lost sleep by sleeping in excessively, as this primarily adds light sleep and doesn’t restore deep sleep, further disrupting your circadian rhythm.

55. Focus on Current Behaviors

You don’t need to know the root cause of your insomnia to begin Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTI), as the treatment focuses on addressing current behaviors that perpetuate the problem.

56. Start Insomnia Treatment Now

Don’t delay starting insomnia treatment; there will never be a ‘perfect’ time, and addressing it now is crucial given the difficulties insomnia causes.

57. Seek Structured CBTI Therapy

When seeking a CBTI therapist, ask if they follow a structured, weekly protocol for 5-8 weeks, including reviewing sleep diaries, as this adherence to the ‘recipe’ is crucial for efficacy.

58. Find Telemedicine CBTI Provider

Utilize the Society of Behavioral Sleep Medicine directory to find a Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTI) provider, as many now offer telemedicine, making treatment more accessible.

59. Verify Telemedicine Provider License

When seeking telemedicine CBTI, ensure the provider is licensed in your specific state, or in a state that participates in PsyPact (Psychology Interjurisdictional Compact) if your state is also a member.

60. Utilize Telemedicine for CBTI

Leverage the increased availability of telemedicine to access Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia (CBTI), especially if you live in a rural area or have difficulty with in-person appointments.

61. Seek Help for Persistent Insomnia

If you’ve been struggling with sleep problems for at least three months and it’s causing distress or interfering with your life, it’s time to seek professional help.

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