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#273 ‒ Prostate health: common problems, cancer prevention, screening, treatment, and more | Ted Schaeffer, M.D., Ph.D.

Oct 2, 2023 3h 29m 49 insights
<p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/tedschaeffer2/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=231002-pod-tedschaeffer2&amp;utm_content=231002-pod-tedschaeffer2-podfeed"> View the Show Notes Page for This Episode</a></p> <p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=231002-pod-tedschaeffer2&amp;utm_content=231002-pod-tedschaeffer2-podfeed"> Become a Member to Receive Exclusive Content</a></p> <p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=231002-pod-tedschaeffer2&amp;utm_content=231002-pod-tedschaeffer2-podfeed"> Sign Up to Receive Peter's Weekly Newsletter</a></p> <p>Ted Schaeffer is an internationally recognized urologist who specializes in prostate cancer. In this episode, Ted delves deep into the realm of prostate health, starting with strategies for vigilance and effective management of the issues that can arise with aging, including urinary symptoms, prostatitis, pelvic pain, and prostate inflammation. Ted sheds light on the popular drug finasteride, renowned for its dual purpose in prostate shrinkage and hair loss prevention, as well as the contentious topic of post-finasteride syndrome. Ted then shifts to the topic of cancer, explaining how androgens, genetics, and non-genetic factors contribute to the pathogenesis of prostate cancer. He provides valuable insights into cancer screening, examining blood-based screening tools like PSA and the use of MRI in facilitating biopsies and their interpretation. Finally, he explores the various treatment options for prostate cancer, including surgical interventions, androgen deprivation therapy, and more.</p> <p><strong>We discuss:</strong></p> <ul type="disc"> <li>Changes to the prostate with age and problems that can develop [3:45];</li> <li>Behavioral modifications to help manage nocturnal urinary frequency and other lower urinary tract symptoms [8:30];</li> <li>Pharmacologic tools for treating nocturnal urinary frequency and lower urinary tract symptoms [16:30];</li> <li>Surgical tools for treating symptoms of the lower urinary tract [26:15];</li> <li>HoLEP surgery for reducing prostate size [32:30];</li> <li>Prostate size: correlation with cancer and considerations for small prostates with persistent symptoms [40:30];</li> <li>Prostatitis due to infection: symptoms, pathogenesis, and treatment [46:45];</li> <li>Prostatitis caused by factors besides infection [58:45];</li> <li>How to minimize risk of urosepsis in patients with Alzheimer's disease [1:05:00];</li> <li>Prostate cancer: 5-alpha reductase inhibitors, how androgens factor into pathogenesis, and more [1:10:00];</li> <li>Post-finasteride syndrome [1:18:15];</li> <li>The relationship between testosterone and DHT and the development of prostate cancer over a man's lifetime [1:26:30];</li> <li>How genetic analysis of a tumor can indicate the aggressiveness of cancer [1:35:15];</li> <li>Pathogenesis and genetic risk factors of prostate cancer and the use of PSA to screen for cancer [1:37:45];</li> <li>Non-genetic risk factors for prostate cancer [1:45:45];</li> <li>Deep dive into PSA as a screening tool: what is PSA, definition of terms, and how to interpret results [1:56:30];</li> <li>MRI as a secondary screening tool and the prostate biopsy options [2:13:15];</li> <li>Ted's ongoing randomized trial comparing different methods of prostate biopsy [2:24:00];</li> <li>Determining when a biopsy is necessary, interpreting results, explaining Gleason score, and more [2:27:00];</li> <li>Implications of a Gleason score of 7 or higher [2:46:45];</li> <li>Metastasis of prostate cancer to different body locations, treatment options, staging, and considerations for patients' quality of life and survival [2:53:30];</li> <li>How prostate cancer surgery has improved [3:09:30];;</li> <li>Questions to ask your neurologist if you are considering prostatectomy for cancer [3:21:45]; and</li> <li>More.</li> </ul> <p>Connect With Peter on <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterAttiaMD">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/peterattiamd/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/peterattiamd/">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8kGsMa0LygSX9nkBcBH1Sg">YouTube</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Understand Prostate Cancer Risk Factors

Be aware of key risk factors for prostate cancer: West African ancestry, family history (father, brother, uncle with prostate cancer, especially at a young age), and smoking (linked to more aggressive cancer at a younger age).

2. Avoid 5-alpha Reductase Inhibitors for Hair Loss

Do not use finasteride or dutasteride for hair loss due to the risk of post-finasteride syndrome (decreased sex drive, impotence, anejaculation, depression, potentially permanent) and the significant impact on PSA interpretation, which can mask aggressive prostate cancer. Explore alternatives like hair transplants.

3. Take Ownership of PSA Monitoring

Patients should take ownership of their PSA monitoring, understanding their numbers and trends, and discussing them proactively with their physicians, as early detection using advanced metrics (PSA velocity, density) can be life-saving.

4. Baseline PSA Testing at Age 45

Every man at age 45 should have a baseline PSA test to understand their individual baseline and track changes over time. If PSA is below 1, recheck every 2-4 years.

5. PSA Monitoring with 5-alpha Reductase Inhibitors

If taking finasteride or dutasteride, be aware that PSA levels will decline by about half. It is critical to adjust PSA interpretation accordingly (e.g., multiply by 2) and monitor for any rise, as a rising PSA on these drugs is a strong warning sign of aggressive prostate cancer.

6. Behavioral Modifications for Urinary Symptoms

Educate yourself that increased fluid intake leads to increased urinary output. Regulate what you drink and when you drink it, avoiding large volumes before bed and diuretics like caffeine.

7. Address Constipation for Pelvic Pain

Be aware that constipation and changes in bowel function can contribute to pelvic pain and urinary discomfort due to the anatomical proximity and shared innervation of the rectum and prostate. Maintaining regular bowel habits can help.

8. Managing Nocturia with TED Stockings

For individuals experiencing nighttime urinary frequency (nocturia) and peripheral edema, strongly consider wearing knee-high TED stockings to reduce fluid shifting from extracellular to intravascular space when lying down.

9. Address Sleep Apnea for Nocturia

If experiencing nocturnal urinary frequency, get screened for sleep apnea, as it is a driver of this symptom and treating it can resolve the issue.

10. Low-Dose Desmopressin for Nocturia

For men experiencing nocturia without a clear explanation or enlarged prostate, a very low dose of desmopressin (typically 0.2 milligrams before bed) can have profound effects by acting as a synthetic anti-diuretic hormone.

11. Voiding Diaries for Urinary Issues

If behavioral modifications are insufficient or symptoms are unusual, keep a voiding diary to track fluid intake (timing and volume) and urinary output (timing and volume). This helps identify excessive intake or unusual patterns.

12. Alpha Blockers for Obstructive Urinary Symptoms

If behavioral modifications fail for lower urinary tract symptoms, consider an alpha blocker (e.g., alfuzosin, silodosin). These medications relax smooth muscles in the prostate, theoretically enhancing the diameter of the urethral channel and improving stream strength and emptying.

13. M3 Agonists for Storage Urinary Symptoms

If alpha blockers improve obstructive symptoms but storage symptoms (frequency, urgency) persist, consider an M3 agonist. These relax bladder muscles, significantly impacting urgency and frequency, with fewer neurocognitive side effects than older anti-muscarinics.

14. Surgical Consultation for Persistent Urinary Symptoms

If still bothered by urinary symptoms despite medical management, discuss outpatient surgical procedures with a urologist, as these can offer a long-term fix without continuous medication.

15. HOLEP for Large Prostates

For men with very large prostates (e.g., over 70-80 grams, up to 600 grams) causing urinary symptoms, consider Holmium Laser Enucleation of the Prostate (HOLEP) by an experienced surgeon. This procedure removes the entire inner pulp of the prostate, offering durable relief with minimal bleeding and often no catheter post-procedure.

16. Avoid Less Durable Minimally Invasive Procedures

Be cautious of minimally invasive procedures like Urolift that offer only temporary relief and may cause pain or interfere with future diagnostics (e.g., MRI). These are generally not recommended if more effective, durable options are available.

17. Consider Surgical Options for BPH with Persistent Symptoms

If medications are ineffective or symptoms are severe, consider surgical options like TURP (Transurethral Resection of the Prostate) or HOLEP. Modern TURP uses saline irrigation to reduce complications, and HOLEP is highly effective for large prostates.

18. Small Prostate with Persistent Symptoms: Rule Out Other Causes

If profound urinary symptoms persist with a small prostate and unresponsiveness to medical management, investigate other causes such as prostate infection (bacterial/viral), prostatitis, or pelvic floor dysfunction.

19. Urethral Carcinoma Workup for Small Prostate & Persistent Symptoms

If profound urinary symptoms persist with a small prostate and unresponsiveness to medical management, ensure a workup for urothelial carcinoma (cancer in the bladder/urethral lining) is performed, including urinary cytology.

20. Diagnostic Workup for Prostatic Infection (Stamey Test)

If concerned about a prostatic infection, undergo a four-step Stamey test (capture initial void urine, midstream urine, expressed prostatic secretion, and post-massage urine). Culture these samples, looking for bacteria at a lower threshold (10^2 or 10^3) than standard UTI diagnostics.

21. Consider Seminal Vesicle Infection for Pelvic Pain

In very unusual cases of persistent pelvic pain, consider a bacterial infection in the seminal vesicles. This can be diagnosed by bacterial testing of semen.

22. Myofascial Release for Pelvic Floor Tightness

If a rectal exam reveals tightness or ‘guitar string’ bands in the pelvic floor muscles, consider transrectal myofascial release therapy, as this can significantly alleviate pelvic pain syndrome.

23. Dietary Diary for Pelvic Discomfort

If experiencing pelvic discomfort or pain without clear cause, keep a thorough diary of food intake to identify potential dietary triggers, similar to interstitial cystitis in women.

24. Avoid Long-Term Antibiotics for Non-Bacterial Prostatitis

If experiencing chronic pelvic pain syndrome that improves with antibiotics but without confirmed bacterial infection, transition away from long-term antibiotic use. Instead, use NSAIDs (e.g., naproxen, ibuprofen, meloxicam) and potentially anxiolytics, as antibiotics often act as anti-inflammatories.

25. Explore Mast Cell Dysfunction for Chronic Pelvic Pain

For chronic pelvic pain syndrome with unknown etiology, explore mast cell dysfunction. Clinical trials are investigating mast cell inhibitors for this condition (e.g., at Northwestern Feinberg School of Medicine).

26. Good Hygiene & Catheter Management for Elderly

For elderly patients, especially those with dementia, maintain good hygiene and monitor voiding history to minimize the risk of urosepsis. If catheterization is necessary, intermittent catheterization is preferred over indwelling catheters due to lower infection risk, provided sterile technique is used.

27. Maintain Hydration in Elderly

For elderly individuals, especially those with comorbidities or dementia, ensure adequate hydration. Dehydration concentrates urine, increasing the risk of infection and urosepsis, as older people often lose their sensation of thirst.

28. Recheck Elevated PSA & Consider Advanced Testing

If an initial PSA test is elevated, always recheck it due to potential transient rises. Additionally, consider advanced PSA-based testing (e.g., percent-free PSA, prostate health index, 4K score) to increase specificity and discriminate between benign enlargement and cancer.

29. Interpret PSA Density

Understand PSA density (PSA value / prostate volume). A PSA density of 0.1 or less is generally safe for young men. For average age, if PSA density is more than 0.15, consider additional testing, as higher PSA density correlates with higher risk and aggressiveness of cancer.

30. Interpret PSA Velocity

Monitor PSA velocity (rate of PSA rise). A rapidly rising PSA is a canary in the coal mine, indicating a warning sign that requires additional evaluation.

31. Pre-Biopsy MRI for Elevated PSA

If you have an elevated PSA and are considering a prostate biopsy, always get a pre-biopsy multiparametric MRI (3T, T2, diffusion-weighted imaging, dynamic contrast enhancement if needed). This helps identify suspicious lesions (PI-RADS 3, 4, 5) and reduces unnecessary biopsies while enhancing detection of clinically significant disease.

32. Biopsy Suspicious MRI Lesions

If an MRI shows a suspicious lesion (PI-RADS 3, 4, or 5), consider a biopsy that samples both the specific lesion (target biopsy) and systematically samples the surrounding peripheral zone.

33. Transperineal Biopsy to Reduce Infection Risk

When undergoing a prostate biopsy, consider the transperineal approach over the transrectal approach, as it significantly reduces the risk of infection by avoiding the introduction of rectal bacteria into the prostate. This can often be done without antibiotics.

34. Buffered Lidocaine for Biopsy Pain Management

If undergoing a transperineal prostate biopsy, ask for buffered lidocaine for pudendal nerve blocks. Buffering the lidocaine (pH ~5) with bicarbonate reduces the burning sensation during injection, making the procedure more tolerable.

35. PSMA PET Scan for High-Grade Prostate Cancer Staging

If diagnosed with high-grade prostate cancer (Gleason 8+ or 4+3=7 with significant pattern 4), undergo a PSMA PET scan to determine the extent of the disease (staging). This is the most sensitive and specific way to identify metastases, as prostate tumors are not FDG-avid.

36. Active Surveillance for Low-Volume Gleason 6 Prostate Cancer

If diagnosed with low-volume Gleason 3+3=6 prostate cancer (least aggressive, 1-4 cores), active surveillance is generally recommended. This involves close monitoring (PSA every 6 months, confirmatory biopsy at 1 year, repeat MRI if PSA changes or initially missed) rather than immediate aggressive treatment, as the risk of progression to incurable disease is very low (0.1%).

37. Genomic Testing for Borderline Gleason 7 Prostate Cancer

For small-volume Gleason 7 (3+4) prostate cancer, especially with minimal pattern 4 (e.g., 1-2 millimeters), consider genomic testing (e.g., Decipher) to assess aggressiveness. Many such tumors behave like Gleason 6 and may be candidates for active surveillance.

38. Aggressive Treatment for High-Grade Prostate Cancer (Gleason 8+)

For Gleason 8 or higher prostate cancer (including 4+3=7 with significant pattern 4), aggressive treatment is typically required. These tumors have a higher probability of deep roots and spreading to lymph nodes, necessitating active intervention.

39. Multimodal Therapy for Aggressive Prostate Cancer

For high-grade prostate cancer (Gleason 8+ or 4+3=7 with significant pattern 4), especially with lymph node involvement, consider multimodal therapy (e.g., surgery followed by radiation, or radiation with androgen deprivation therapy) for aggressive treatment.

40. Inquire About Surgeon’s Specialization and Outcomes

When choosing a surgeon for prostatectomy, ask about their practice scope (e.g., prostatectomy-only vs. general urology), their surgical margin rates, and their rates of functional recovery (urinary continence, erectile function). Seek a surgeon with dedicated experience and transparent outcomes.

41. Pelvic Fascial Sparing Prostatectomy

When considering radical prostatectomy, inquire about pelvic fascial sparing techniques. This advanced surgical approach preserves surrounding fascia and structures, significantly improving urinary continence recovery and potentially erectile function without compromising cancer control.

42. Post-Prostatectomy Erectile Function Recovery

Understand that erectile function recovery post-prostatectomy is a long process (up to 24-30 months) and depends on age, pre-surgical function, and tumor aggressiveness. Be prepared for a 65-75% chance of recovery with Cialis for a healthy 65-year-old with contained cancer.

43. Penile Rehabilitation with Injectable Prostaglandins

Post-prostatectomy, consider using injectable prostaglandins (e.g., into the cavernosal body) as a temporary measure to trigger erections during the nerve recovery period. This helps reoxygenate the penis, maintain penile length, and support sexual activity.

44. MRI-Guided Radiation Therapy

If radiation therapy is chosen, inquire about MRI-guided prostate radiation. This advanced technique offers tremendous precision, real-time adjustments for patient movement, and the ability to boost specific lesions, significantly reducing rectal side effects and potentially improving cancer control.

45. Hydrogel Spacer for Radiation Toxicity Reduction

For radiation therapy, consider the use of a hydrogel spacer (SpaceOAR). This gel is percutaneously deposited between the prostate and rectum, separating them by 5-10mm, which substantially reduces radiation toxicity to the rectum.

46. Radiation Sensitization with Androgen Deprivation Therapy (ADT)

If undergoing radiation for high-grade or locally aggressive prostate cancer, androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) is often used as a radiation sensitizer. It induces double-strand DNA breaks, making cancer cells even more susceptible to the radiation.

47. Oral LHRH Antagonists for Short-Course ADT

For short-course ADT (e.g., 6-24 months) used with radiation, consider oral LHRH antagonists. These offer rapid onset and offset, increasing the likelihood of testosterone recovery compared to traditional LHRH agonists.

48. Systemic Therapy for Metastatic Prostate Cancer

For metastatic prostate cancer, systemic therapy is essential. This includes androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) with LHRH agonists/antagonists, often combined with novel hormonal therapies like CYP17 inhibitors (e.g., abiraterone) or androgen receptor competitive binders (e.g., enzalutamide, apalutamide, darolutamide) to significantly extend lifespan.

49. Testosterone Supplementation with Low T and Prostate Cancer

For patients with low testosterone and prostate cancer, especially luminal-type tumors, testosterone supplementation can be considered. Luminal tumors are exquisitely sensitive to testosterone suppression, and understanding tumor biology (e.g., via genomics) can guide this decision.