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#232 ‒ Shoulder, elbow, wrist, and hand: diagnosis, treatment, and surgery of the upper extremities | Alton Barron, M.D.

Nov 28, 2022 3h 38m 48 insights
<p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/altonbarron/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=221128-pod-altonbarron&amp;utm_content=221128-pod-altonbarron-podfeed"> View the Show Notes Page for This Episode</a></p> <p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/subscribe/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=221128-pod-altonbarron&amp;utm_content=221128-pod-altonbarron-podfeed"> Become a Member to Receive Exclusive Content</a></p> <p><a href="https://peterattiamd.com/newsletter/?utm_source=podcast-feed&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_campaign=221128-pod-altonbarron&amp;utm_content=221128-pod-altonbarron-podfeed"> Sign Up to Receive Peter's Weekly Newsletter</a></p> <p>Alton Barron is an orthopedic surgeon specializing in the shoulder, elbow, and hand. In this episode, Alton breaks down the anatomy of the upper extremities and discusses the most common injuries associated with this area of the body. He explains in detail how he examines the shoulder, elbow, and hand to find the source of the pain and lays out the non-surgical and surgical treatment options as well as the factors that determine whether surgery is appropriate. Additionally, Alton describes the surgical procedures that, when done appropriately, can lead to tremendous reduction of pain and improvement in function.</p> <p>We discuss:</p> <ul> <li>Alton's path to orthopedic surgery [3:45];</li> <li>Evolution of orthopedics and recent advances [8:45];</li> <li>Anatomy of the upper extremities [13:30];</li> <li>Rotator cuff injuries, shoulder joint dislocation, and more [21:15];</li> <li>Peter's shoulder problems [31:30];</li> <li>The structure of the biceps and common injuries [35:30];</li> <li>Labrum tears in the shoulder and natural loss of cartilage with usage and time [38:15];</li> <li>Shoulder evaluation with MRI vs. physical exam, diagnosing pain, and when to have surgery [41:30];</li> <li>How anatomical variation can predispose one to injury and how screening may help [50:30];</li> <li>Pain generators in the shoulder, and the important nuance of the physical exam [56:00];</li> <li>Frozen shoulder [1:05:15];</li> <li>Shoulder pain that originates in the neck [1:11:15];</li> <li>Surgical treatments for a labral tear, and factors that determine whether surgery is appropriate [1:16:00];</li> <li>Repairing the rotator cuff [1:29:15];</li> <li>Are platelet-rich plasma (PRP) injections or stem cells beneficial for healing tears? [1:38:15];</li> <li>Repair of an AC joint separation [1:45:15];</li> <li>Total shoulder replacement [1:55:45];</li> <li>The elbow: anatomy, pain points, common injuries, treatments, and more [2:05:30];</li> <li>How Tommy John surgery revolutionized Major League Baseball [2:17:15];</li> <li>History of hand surgery and the most significant advancements [2:22:15];</li> <li>The hand: anatomy, common injuries, and surgeries of the hand and wrist [2:29:30];</li> <li>Carpal tunnel syndrome [2:40:00];</li> <li>Other common injuries of the hand and forearm [2:47:15];</li> <li>Grip strength [2:55:15];</li> <li>Arthritis in the hands [2:59:30];</li> <li>Trigger finger [3:07:45];</li> <li>Nerve pain, numbness, and weakness in the upper limbs [3:14:00];</li> <li>The Musician Treatment Foundation [3:22:00];</li> <li>Gratitude and rucking [3:34:15]; and</li> <li>More.</li> </ul> <p>Connect With Peter on <a href="https://twitter.com/PeterAttiaMD">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/peterattiamd/">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/peterattiamd/">Facebook</a> and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8kGsMa0LygSX9nkBcBH1Sg">YouTube</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Consider Surgical Decision Asymmetry

When contemplating surgery, remember that choosing not to operate preserves all future options, whereas surgery permanently alters the operative field and subsequent interventions. Prioritize a pause to fully evaluate the decision.

2. Don’t Rely Solely on MRI

Never make clinical, especially surgical, decisions based solely on an MRI. A thorough patient history, including injury mechanics and usage patterns, combined with a comprehensive physical examination, is crucial for accurate diagnosis.

3. Provide Detailed Injury History

Offer your doctor a meticulous account of your injury’s mechanics, how you use your body, and the specific symptoms you experience. This detailed history, alongside a physical exam, can lead to 95% diagnostic accuracy without an MRI.

4. Prioritize Function Over Pain

When evaluating orthopedic injuries, especially rotator cuff tears, consider surgical intervention not just for acute pain but also for significant functional impairment. Maintaining vitality and desired activity levels can be a primary indication for repair, even if pain is not severe.

5. Collaborate on Treatment Decisions

Engage in a shared decision-making process with your surgeon, understanding that treatment plans should be a conversation. Your input, knowledge, and preferences, combined with their expertise and your specific condition, are vital.

6. Manage Frozen Shoulder Non-Surgically

For adhesive capsulitis (frozen shoulder), focus on controlling inflammation, engaging in consistent physical therapy, and adhering to a home exercise program, as approximately 80% of cases can resolve without surgery.

7. Tailor Frozen Shoulder Treatment

If you have shoulder stiffness but retain decent motion, begin with physical therapy to stretch out the joint. However, if motion is severely limited and painful, a cortisone injection may be necessary first to reduce pain and enable effective physical therapy.

8. Differentiate Shoulder vs. Neck Pain

If shoulder pain radiates below the elbow and into the hand, it is highly indicative of a neck (cervical spine) origin rather than an intrinsic shoulder problem, which typically does not extend past the elbow.

9. Proactive Rehab for Predisposition

If you are aware of an anatomical predisposition to injury, such as a narrow C-spine or a Type 3 acromion, proactively engage in rehabilitative exercises to strengthen supporting structures and mitigate future injury risk.

10. Manage Type 3 Acromion Risk

If you have a Type 3 (bird beak) acromion, be cautious with repetitive overhead activities, as this anatomical shape can irritate the bursa and rotator cuff tendon, predisposing you to bursitis and tears.

11. Screen for Spinal Canal Narrowing

If you experience a ‘stinger’ (nerve injury) during contact sports, get screened for a congenitally narrow spinal canal. This condition significantly increases the risk of catastrophic spinal cord injury with further impact.

12. Choose Sports for Hypermobility

If you have hypermobile (loose) joints, select sports and activities that allow for dynamic stabilization and avoid those that subject the joints to excessive or unnatural forces, to prevent recurrent injury.

13. Recognize Pain-Induced Weakness

If you experience weakness during specific lifting movements, especially when fatigued, it may not be true muscle weakness but rather your brain’s protective response to prevent injury or overstressing a compromised joint.

14. Prednisone for Neck Symptoms

For neck-related symptoms (e.g., tingling, mild pain) without significant motor weakness, a short course of low-dose prednisone may resolve the issue, potentially avoiding the need for extensive imaging and associated anxiety.

15. Monitor Asymptomatic Rotator Cuff Tears

Be aware that asymptomatic rotator cuff tears do not heal spontaneously; larger tears are more likely to progress in size and eventually become symptomatic over time.

16. Manage Rotator Cuff Inflammation

For small rotator cuff tears, consider managing inflammation first if the tear is not yet biomechanically significant, as symptoms may stem from inflammation rather than the tear itself.

17. Skepticism for PRP/Stem Cells

Approach claims about PRP (Platelet-Rich Plasma) and stem cell injections for common orthopedic conditions like rotator cuff tears or epicondylitis with skepticism, as robust scientific evidence for their widespread effectiveness is often lacking.

18. Wait-and-See for AC Separation

For certain AC (acromioclavicular) joint separations, such as Type 3, waiting a few weeks to assess symptoms before deciding on surgery does not negatively impact the outcome and may allow for non-operative recovery.

19. Shoulder Replacement for Pain

Consider total shoulder replacement primarily for chronic pain that significantly limits function and quality of life, rather than solely for severe arthritis visible on X-rays, as many with advanced arthritis remain asymptomatic.

20. Avoid Heavy Lifting Post-Shoulder Replacement

After a total shoulder replacement, avoid heavy weightlifting, particularly movements like bench press and iron cross, to protect the longevity and integrity of the implant.

21. First-Line Treatment for Epicondylitis

For tennis elbow (lateral epicondylitis) or golfer’s elbow (medial epicondylitis), begin treatment with rest, consistent stretching, and oral NSAIDs, as these conservative measures are often effective.

22. Cortisone for Severe Epicondylitis

If epicondylitis pain is severe, limiting elbow movement and causing significant inflammation, a low-dose cortisone injection can help cool down the inflammation and enable more effective stretching and rehabilitation.

23. Gradual Return to Activity

When resuming physical activities after a break, gradually increase intensity and duration to prevent overuse injuries like epicondylitis, which often occur when individuals overdo it too quickly.

24. Strengthen for Epicondylitis

For epicondylitis, if grip strength exercises are tolerable with minimal pain, prioritize a program of stretching and strengthening, as this can often cure the condition.

25. Tommy John for Elite Throwers Only

Understand that Tommy John surgery (ulnar collateral ligament reconstruction) is an operation specifically designed for elite throwing athletes with a torn ligament, not for non-athletes or to artificially increase throwing velocity.

26. Prompt Scaphoid Fracture Evaluation

If you experience wrist pain after a fall, especially as an athlete, seek prompt medical evaluation. Scaphoid fractures can be subtle and easily missed on initial X-rays, but early diagnosis is crucial for proper healing.

27. Scaphoid Fracture Healing Time

Be aware that scaphoid fractures take significantly longer to heal (10-12 weeks) than other bones due to their unique, retrograde blood supply, which is easily disrupted by injury.

28. Splint for Non-Displaced Scaphoid

For non-displaced scaphoid fractures, immobilization with a splint that supports the wrist while leaving the thumb and fingers free can allow the bone to heal without surgical intervention.

29. Scaphoid Repair Recovery Times

Following percutaneous scaphoid fracture repair, expect to return to activities like catching a ball in about six weeks, with some professionals (e.g., surgeons) able to resume work within a week.

30. Splint Wrist in Neutral Position

When immobilizing the wrist, ensure it is placed in a neutral position (slight extension) to prevent increased pressure on the median nerve in the carpal tunnel, which can lead to acute carpal tunnel syndrome.

31. Musician-Specific Splint Position

If you are a musician requiring wrist immobilization, discuss with your doctor the possibility of splinting your hand in a specific position that allows you to continue playing your instrument.

32. Use Hands for Cognitive Vitality

Actively engage your hands in meaningful tasks to maintain cognitive vitality, as over 60% of higher cortical neurons are dedicated to hand function, and hand use stimulates brain activity.

33. Handwrite for Brain Stimulation

Prioritize handwriting over typing for tasks like essay writing, as studies show it stimulates more cortical activity, leading to longer sentences, richer vocabulary, and more ideas generated faster.

34. Verify Carpal Tunnel Numbness

To self-assess for carpal tunnel syndrome, confirm that numbness and tingling are specifically located in the palm side of the thumb, index finger, middle finger, and typically half of the ring finger.

35. Ergonomics for Carpal Tunnel

If you have carpal tunnel syndrome, pay close attention to your ergonomic setup and posture, as repetitive activities and poor positioning can significantly exacerbate symptoms.

36. Brain Protects Grip Strength

Be aware that a sudden decrease in perceived strength during novel or challenging grip exercises (e.g., fewer fingers) might be your brain’s protective mechanism to prevent overstressing tendons, rather than a true loss of muscle strength.

37. Prioritize Ulnar Nerve for Grip

To maximize overall grip strength, focus on exercises that engage the pinky and ring fingers, as the ulnar nerve, which controls these digits, is disproportionately important for powerful grip.

38. Early Intervention for Trigger Finger

For trigger finger, seek early intervention, ideally within six weeks of onset, as one or two cortisone injections can achieve a 75% cure rate.

39. Limit Cortisone Injections

Limit cortisone injections to a maximum of three per tendon sheath over its lifetime to prevent soft tissue degradation and potential tendon ruptures.

40. Urgent Care for Infected Tendon

Seek immediate medical attention for a finger that is swollen, exquisitely tender along its sheath, and held in a flexed position, as these are signs of suppurative tenosynovitis, an orthopedic emergency.

41. Recognize Double Crush Syndrome

If you experience numbness, tingling, or pain in multiple nerve distributions (e.g., median and radial nerves) along with neck stiffness, consider ‘double crush’ syndrome, where nerve compression occurs at both the neck and a distal site.

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43. Bring Scientific Articles to Doctor

Engage proactively with your healthcare provider by bringing relevant scientific articles you’ve researched, as well-informed patients can contribute to the diagnostic and treatment process.

44. Prevent Rotator Cuff Atrophy

If you have a rotator cuff tear, even if currently asymptomatic, consider repair to prevent muscle atrophy and preserve long-term function, especially if you wish to maintain your current activity levels.

45. Reassess New Shoulder Symptoms

Do not ignore the onset of new shoulder symptoms after a period of being asymptomatic; this indicates a change in your anatomical or physiological state and warrants reassessment.

46. Prioritize Biological Over Chronological Age

When making medical decisions, especially regarding surgery, assess an individual’s biological age and physiological condition rather than solely relying on chronological age, as modern individuals are often physiologically younger.

47. Incorporate Rucking for Strength

Consider incorporating rucking (walking with a weighted backpack) into your fitness routine 2-3 times a week, as it can significantly improve overall body strength and lightness, even at an older age.

48. Support Musician Treatment Foundation

Visit mtfusa.org to learn more about and get involved with the Musician Treatment Foundation, a non-profit providing free orthopedic care to uninsured and underinsured professional musicians.