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#17 - Mike Trevino: life-lessons from ultra-endurance, mindset, hard work, and removing limitations

Sep 24, 2018 1h 56m 43 insights
<p>In this episode, ultra-endurance athlete and entrepreneur, Mike Trevino, discusses the lessons he's learned from his remarkable athletic feats, and the training required to reach them. Not only is Mike's advice practical for those looking to take their endurance training to the next level, but his lessons and insight are extraordinarily applicable to living everyday life.</p> <p>We discuss:</p> <ul> <li>Mike's background, his crazy birthday tradition, and his transition from power to endurance [<a href="">6:30</a>];</li> <li>Mike's breakthrough year: setting a course record, and completing the Badwater 135 [<a href="">16:00</a>];</li> <li>Race Across America (RAAM), perseverance, and extreme sleep deprivation [25:30];</li> <li>Mindset, nutrition, fasting, and other advice from Mike for those looking to take the next step in their training [49:00];</li> <li>What getting a parasite taught Mike about fasting [59:45];</li> <li>The risks involved with cycling [<a href="">1:03:00</a>];</li> <li>Mike setting the trans-Iowa (RAGBRAI) record [1:10:15];</li> <li>PEDs, stimulants, and their effect on performance [<a href="">1:15:00</a>];</li> <li>What motivates Mike (and others) to do this extreme stuff? What led him to eventually pull back? [<a href="">1:22:00</a>];</li> <li>Life-lessons learned from training, and how to impart them to his kids, and others [1:35:30];</li> <li>The greatest beer in the world remains a mystery [1:46:15]; and</li> <li>More.</li> </ul> <p> <span> Learn more at <a href="http://www.peterattiamd.com/"><span><u>www.PeterAttiaMD.com</u></span></a></span></p> <p> <span>Connect with Peter on <a href=""> <span> <u>Facebook</u></span></a> | <a href=""> <span> <u>Twitter</u></span></a> | <a href=""> <span> <u>Instagram</u></span></a>.</span></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Challenge Limiting Beliefs

Assume you have the inherent ability to do great things and discard preconceived notions about personal limits. This encourages an open mindset to push beyond perceived boundaries.

2. Prioritize Sleep for Function

Extreme sleep deprivation (10.5 hours over 8.5 days in RAAM) can lead to clinical insanity and delusion. This underscores sleep’s critical role over food and hydration for thermal regulation, muscle recovery, and brain function.

3. Cultivate Discipline to Rest

The hardest decisions are often pulling back on training despite internal doubts. Emphasize self-discipline to prioritize recovery and prevent overtraining, even without an external coach.

4. View Body as Engineered Utility

Approach your physical self as a tool to be optimized for specific goals. This encourages a results-oriented and analytical mindset towards health and performance outcomes.

5. Use Objective Metrics for Self-Assessment

Rely on objective data like time, heart rate, and power (for cycling) to honestly evaluate performance and avoid self-deception. This is crucial for long-term consistency and preventing overtraining.

6. Embrace ‘Never Give Up’ Mindset

Apply perseverance across all life domains, from endurance sports to family and company challenges. Continuous effort through adversity is key to achieving goals, even if it means simply finishing.

7. Practice Disciplined ‘No’ for Focus

Be highly disciplined in saying ’no’ to anything not on your critical path. This eliminates distractions and helps maintain laser focus on your objectives.

8. Engineer Sleep Cycles for Recovery

Monitor sleep (e.g., watching eye movement for REM cycles) to wake up at the ideal moment from short sleep blocks. This ensures maximum rest and alertness for optimal performance.

9. Build Diverse, Cross-Functional Teams

For complex challenges, assemble a team with varied skills and perspectives, not just those with direct experience in the core task. Diverse viewpoints enhance problem-solving and support.

10. Establish Clear, Singular Leadership

In high-stakes endeavors, designate one sole decision-maker. This ensures absolute trust and a clear chain of command for safety and success.

11. Use Centering Activity for Clarity

When demoralized or under extreme stress, engage in a meditative or centering activity like a short run. This practice helps to re-center yourself and reaffirm your purpose.

12. Adapt Quickly to Changing Conditions

Be prepared to make immediate strategic adjustments based on real-time conditions. This flexibility can provide a significant advantage and help avoid negative outcomes.

13. Re-evaluate Priorities When Motivations Shift

Recognize when core life motivations change and be willing to shift your focus from past pursuits to new priorities. This allows for natural transitions in life phases.

14. Lead by Example in Hard Work

Show children that hard work comes in many forms, both physical and mental, and that no task is beneath you. This fosters a strong work ethic and perseverance.

15. Foster Intrinsic Motivation in Children

Encourage children to ‘have fun’ in their activities and avoid giving them special treatment due to parental achievements. This helps them develop their own intrinsic motivation.

16. Adopt Cross-Functional Learning Approach

Draw insights from diverse domains (e.g., mountaineering for fat adaptation in running) to foster out-of-the-box thinking. This helps translate knowledge effectively across different fields.

17. Experiment with Fasted Endurance Exercise

Consider training for long-distance events with no caloric intake, relying only on hydration, after an overnight fast. This can help develop fat adaptation for ultra-endurance.

18. Prioritize Liquid, Nutrient-Dense Nutrition

During ultra-endurance, consume liquid, nutrient-dense calories that combine nutrition and hydration. This minimizes digestive effort and avoids diverting blood flow from working muscles.

19. Actively Manage Electrolyte Intake

During high-sweat activities, actively consume salts with trace minerals, magnesium, and potassium. This helps prevent hyponatremia and supports performance in extreme conditions.

20. Consider Extended Fasting for Reset

For a body cleansing or reset, consider a multi-day water-only fast, potentially combined with medical therapy. This can lead to unexpected improvements in health and performance.

21. Be Cautious with Sugar in Endurance

Sugar can lead to bonking due to insulin response and creates a dependency, committing the body to a glycolytic strategy. If used, it must be timed perfectly in long events.

22. Consider High-Density Fat at Altitude

For energy at high altitudes, consuming a shot of olive oil can be more effective than carbohydrates. This suggests fat as a superior energy source in challenging metabolic conditions.

23. Monitor Resting Heart Rate Daily

Check your resting heart rate daily as an indicator of overtraining or inadequate adaptation. If it’s elevated above your normal baseline, consider resting.

24. Stick to Training Plan

Adhere to your scheduled training plan and avoid trying to ‘make up’ missed miles or sessions. This prevents overtraining and potential injury.

25. Prioritize Fun in Training

Unless pursuing world records, focus on enjoyment and sustainability in your physical activities rather than overthinking data. This makes training more sustainable long-term.

26. Consider Data-Light Exercise

When not competing, opt for a simpler, more enjoyable exercise experience without constant tracking of metrics like power or heart rate. This shifts focus from performance to fun.

27. Acclimate to Heat Through Sauna

To prepare for extreme heat events, use saunas and jacuzzis to intentionally raise body temperature and practice consuming large amounts of water. This trains the body to handle heat and process fluids.

28. Create Personal Annual Challenges

Establish consistent, increasing physical goals each year, such as running miles equal to your age on your birthday. This provides a continuous personal challenge.

29. Question Conventional Limits

Approach established norms with curiosity, asking if multi-day events could be completed in a single, non-stop effort. This encourages a mindset of challenging what’s considered possible.

30. Prioritize Regular Social Physical Activity

Schedule consistent weekly physical activity with friends to maintain connection and social engagement. This combines exercise with cherished social interaction, even with busy schedules.

31. Be a Supportive Friend

Be present and show up for loved ones during their most difficult periods. This demonstrates the importance of strong, reliable friendships.

32. Plan Hydration Stops for Runs

For long, self-supported runs, carry handheld water bottles and know specific public drinking fountain locations for refills. This allows continuous movement without relying on stores.

33. Embrace Unexpected Opportunities

Be open to new environments and experiences, as they can lead to profound personal transformations. Unexpected paths can reveal new passions and capabilities.

34. Maintain Personal Standards for Performance

Commit to understanding and achieving your body’s natural capabilities without the use of performance-enhancing drugs. This ensures the integrity of your personal challenge.

35. Define Personal Boundaries for Enhancement

Establish clear personal lines for what constitutes ’natural’ performance enhancement, such as avoiding intravenous fluids. This helps maintain a consistent ethical framework for your endeavors.

36. Re-evaluate High-Risk Activities

Assess activities with inherent risks based on cumulative exposure over time. Acknowledge that prolonged engagement in certain high-risk activities increases the likelihood of negative outcomes.

37. Utilize Indoor Training for Safety

After a serious accident or for safety concerns, use indoor training equipment to continue intense workouts. This mitigates risks associated with outdoor activities like road cycling.

38. Apply Non-Carb-Loading to Children

Provide children with nutrient-dense, lower-carb options like nuts and cherries before sports events. This reflects fat-adaptation principles for sustained energy.

39. Consider Modafinil for Sleep Deprivation

For managing severe sleep deprivation in critical roles, modafinil (200-600mg daily) has been used to maintain or improve performance over 24 hours without the crash of stimulants. (Note: This is Peter’s personal experience during residency).

40. Be Aware of Stimulants’ Judgment Impact

Understand that stimulants can negatively affect judgment. This is a critical consideration for individuals in high-stakes environments where clear decision-making is paramount.

41. Use Physical Challenges for Self-Discovery

Engage in physical challenges as an escape or a path to self-improvement. These pursuits can help process personal difficulties and lead to finding a ‘happy place’.

42. Leverage Endurance for Meditation

Utilize long endurance activities as a meditative time for deep introspection and processing thoughts, both past and present. This can prevent boredom and foster self-reflection.

43. Try Lost Abbey Judgment Day Beer

For a high-quality, mass-produced strong Belgian quad (10%+ alcohol), try Lost Abbey’s ‘Judgment Day’ from San Marcos, California. It is described as a dense and fantastic beer.