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#01 - Tim Ferriss: depression, psychedelics, and emotional resilience

Jul 2, 2018 2h 36m 37 insights
<p>Excited to kick off the podcast with special guest and close friend Tim Ferriss, lifehacker, podcaster extraordinaire, and author of multiple best-selling books that includes The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, Tools of Titans, and Tribe of Mentors.</p> <p>In this podcast we cover mental health, depression, and our mutual interest in psychedelics as potential therapeutic agents. Tim talks both experientially and from his own deep dive into the literature of psychedelics and mental health. Tim is shifting his focus from investing in startups to funding experiments that he hopes will establish more reliable knowledge and therapeutic options for those suffering from anxiety, depression, and addiction.</p> <p>Tim also shared his list of acquired wisdom he returns to most reliably, which might be worth the price of admission alone.</p> <p> </p> <p>We discuss:</p> <ul> <li>Tim's history of depression and his TED Talk on his close call with suicide [11:15];</li> <li>The type of thinking that triggers Tim's downward spirals [17:15];</li> <li>Tim's transformative experience with ayahuasca [48:45];</li> <li>How Tim's experience and research has led him to focus on furthering the science on psychedelics and mental health [53:00];</li> <li>What some of the meditation modalities, and meditation apps, are out there, why meditation can be so hard to do, but also worthwhile to stick with [1:13:00];</li> <li>Why Tim made a big commitment (more than $1 million) to funding scientific research, and to psilocybin and MDMA research, in particular [1:31:00];</li> <li>From all the habits and tools that Tim has learned, the five things that he returns to most reliably [2:33:00];</li> <li>And more.</li> </ul> <p>Learn more at <a href="http://www.peterattiamd.com/">www.PeterAttiaMD.com</a></p> <div>Connect with Peter on <a href="Facebook.com/PeterAttiaMD" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Facebook</a> | <a href="Twitter.com/PeterAttiaMD" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Twitter</a> | <a href="Instagram.com/PeterAttiaMD" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Instagram</a></div>
Actionable Insights

1. Prioritize Daily Morning Meditation

Meditate for 10-20 minutes immediately upon waking, before checking emails or engaging in other tasks, to ensure consistency and rehearse non-reactivity for daily challenges.

2. Incorporate Hip-Hinging Exercise

Perform a hip-hinging movement, such as deadlifts or two-handed kettlebell swings, at least once a week to prevent various physical issues and improve overall performance.

3. Practice Quarterly Fasting & Ketosis

Engage in fasting and enter a state of ketosis for at least one week, once per quarter, to potentially gain health benefits and practice asceticism.

4. Engage in Group Rituals/Meals

Combat isolation and foster connection by participating in group meals or other rituals at least once or twice a week, especially when experiencing pain, depression, or anxiety.

5. Cultivate Happiness by Helping Others

When feeling unhappy or in a funk, shift focus to making someone else happy through acts of kindness, such as buying coffee for a stranger or expressing gratitude, or practice loving-kindness (Metta) meditation.

6. Prioritize Self-Acceptance Now

Do not delay working on self-acceptance and resolving long-standing emotional patterns, as it makes everything more effortless and rewarding, regardless of other life circumstances.

7. Treat Yourself with Kindness

Apply the golden rule to yourself by treating yourself with the same kindness, respect, and empathy you would offer to those you love most, rather than self-loathing or harsh criticism.

8. Pay Attention to Your Inner Voice

Recognize your inner voice as your most important coach and pay increasing attention to the words you use when ruminating or talking to yourself, as it significantly impacts your mindset.

9. Use Meditation to Refine Your Edge

Embrace meditation not as a loss of your competitive edge, but as a tool to develop a ‘handle’ for your ‘blade,’ allowing you to use your strengths more effectively and purposefully.

10. Develop Meta-Awareness Through Meditation

Practice meditation to create a gap between sensory input and cognitive response, enabling you to choose your reactions more consciously rather than acting reflexively.

11. Understand Meditation’s ‘Bicep Curl’

Don’t be discouraged by distracting thoughts during meditation; the ‘bicep curl’ is the act of recognizing these thoughts and gently returning your focus to the breath, which is the actual work.

12. Focus on Meditation’s Out-of-Session Benefits

Understand that the primary value of meditation lies in its positive impact on your state and behavior during the 23 hours outside of your practice, rather than solely on the experience within the session.

13. Commit to Consistent Meditation

Prioritize following a consistent meditation program, even if it means starting with shorter durations like 5 or 10 minutes, over aiming for a ‘perfect’ but unsustainable practice.

14. Redefine Meditation Success

Consider a meditation session successful if you simply sit for the allotted time or engage with your focus (e.g., mantra, breath) even once, lowering the bar to encourage consistency.

15. Expect a Meditation ‘Loading Phase’

Be aware that it may take 5-7 days of consistent meditation after a lapse to re-establish a calmer state and shift into a different mental gear.

16. Explore Different Meditation Guides/Apps

If initial attempts at meditation don’t resonate, try various apps, guides, or books (e.g., Sam Harris’s Waking Up, Headspace, Calm, Jeff Warren) until you find an approach that works for you.

17. Consider Transcendental Meditation (TM)

If struggling with consistency, consider taking a TM course to kickstart your meditation practice, leveraging the financial commitment and accountability to maintain daily sessions.

18. Cultivate Self-Empathy with a Younger Photo

Carry a picture of your younger self to foster empathy and understanding for your past experiences and the person you were, using it as a bridge to self-forgiveness and healing.

19. Prioritize Healthspan Over Lifespan

Focus on enhancing the quality of your life, especially in later years (healthspan), as it often matters more than merely extending lifespan.

20. Explore Your City’s Nooks and Crannies

Actively get involved and explore all the various parts of any city you live in to deepen your connection and understanding of your environment.

21. Acknowledge You Are Not Alone in Mental Health

Recognize that mental health struggles are common and that you are not alone, as millions of people fight similar inner battles.

22. Exercise Caution with Psychedelics

Be aware that psychedelics carry physical, psychological, and legal risks, and are illegal in the United States; they are not recommended for casual use.

23. Prioritize Non-Psychedelic Tools First

Before considering psychedelics, explore and utilize other exceptionally useful tools like mindfulness meditation, as they can provide significant benefits on their own.

24. Practice Psychedelic Best Practices

If considering psychedelics, ensure you follow best practices for preparation, intention setting, and integration, and avoid haphazard or uncontrolled circumstances.

25. Always Use a Sober Sitter for Psychedelics

Never use psychedelics without a sober person supervising the experience, as this can prevent dangerous situations and ensure safety.

26. Start with Less Intense Psychedelics

When exploring psychedelics, begin with compounds like psilocybin before considering more powerful and potentially destabilizing ones like ayahuasca.

27. Avoid Excessive Psychedelic Doses

Do not take excessively high doses of psychedelics, as ‘more is not better’ and can be counterproductive to achieving desired effects.

28. Arrange Post-Psychedelic Chaperone

For powerful psychedelic experiences, arrange for a chaperone to supervise you for an extended period (e.g., 36 hours) afterward, in case of prolonged disorientation.

29. Understand Psychedelics Are Not for Everyone

Recognize that psychedelics are not a panacea, have contraindications, and are not suitable for everyone.

30. Do Not Use MDMA Recreationally for Therapy

Avoid using MDMA recreationally as a party drug with the expectation of resolving deep-seated psychological problems, as therapeutic use requires supervised settings and integration.

31. Be Aware of Ibogaine’s Significant Risks

Understand that Ibogaine carries substantial risks, including potentially fatal cardiac events, and is considered one of the more dangerous psychedelics.

32. Ensure Screening and Monitoring for Ibogaine

If considering Ibogaine, insist on thorough medical screening for cardiac risks and continuous monitoring during its administration to minimize danger.

33. Support Psychedelic Research (MAPS)

Consider supporting organizations like MAPS (maps.org) that are spearheading scientific research and working towards the legitimization of therapeutic psychedelic use.

34. Read ‘I Don’t Want to Talk About It’

Read Terrence Real’s ‘I Don’t Want to Talk About It’ to gain insights into male depression and its often-masked manifestations.

35. Read ‘Radical Acceptance’

Read Tara Brock’s ‘Radical Acceptance’ for guidance on addressing and transforming emotional and thought patterns that feel controlling.

36. Read ‘How to Change Your Mind’

Read Michael Pollan’s ‘How to Change Your Mind’ to gain a comprehensive understanding of the history, science, and potential of psychedelics.

37. Read ‘Solve for Happy’

Read Mo Gawdat’s ‘Solve for Happy’ for a framework and approach to understanding and achieving happiness.