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Why Having the Courage to Defy Makes us Happier (with Dr Sunita Sah)

Sep 8, 2025 39m 53s 10 insights
<p>We all go along with things we don't want to do... or worse, things that make us feel uncomfortable or morally uneasy. We comply for lots of reasons. We don't want to make trouble, or upset our friends, our bosses or people in authority. But Dr Sunita Sah says we should be more ready to defy.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p><em><a href="https://www.sunitasah.com/defy">Defy: the Power of No in a World That Demands Yes</a></em> is one of Dr Laurie's favorite books of 2025, so she invited Sunita to explain how we can say no more often and what that means for improving our happiness.&nbsp;</p> <p>(With thanks to the Milgram family for allowing us to use the archive audio in this episode. It's from Stanley Milgram Papers (MS 1406). Manuscripts and Archives, Yale University Library.)&nbsp;</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>
Actionable Insights

1. Clarify Your Core Values

Actively identify and understand your personal values (e.g., integrity, fairness, compassion) as this clarity strengthens your intended behaviors and reduces biological stress responses, forming the ‘Who am I?’ part of the defiance compass.

2. Use the Defiance Compass

When facing a decision, ask three questions: ‘Who am I?’ (what are my values?), ‘What kind of situation is this?’ (is it safe and effective to defy?), and ‘What does a person like me do in a situation like this?’ to align actions with values.

Before agreeing, ensure five elements of informed consent are present: capacity, knowledge, understanding, freedom to say no, and your true authorization. If the freedom to say no is absent, it’s merely compliance, not true consent.

4. Acknowledge Internal Tension

Recognize feelings of tension, anxiety, or discomfort when pressured to comply as a ‘first stage of defiance’ and a signal that something is wrong, indicating your agency is still present and not fully given away.

5. Vocalize Discomfort Early

If you feel tension or discomfort about a request, acknowledge it to yourself and then vocalize it to the person making the request by saying, ‘I’m uncomfortable with that’ or ‘What do you mean by that?’ to make your stance known externally.

6. Assess Safety and Impact Before Defying

Before choosing to defy, ask yourself: ‘Is it safe enough for me to defy?’ (considering financial, psychological, or physical risks) and ‘Will it have enough positive impact?’ to make an informed decision about the situation.

7. Consider the Costs of Saying Yes

When asked to take on commitments or tasks, actively think about the potential negative costs of saying ‘yes’ (e.g., impact on well-being, family, or other priorities), not just the perceived costs of saying ’no’.

8. Practice Defiance Consistently

Understand that defiance is a ‘practice, not a personality,’ meaning it’s a skill that can be developed and improved over time through repeated action, rather than an inherent trait.

9. Model Defiance for Others

Actively teach, parent for, and model defiance in your own life to encourage others, especially children, to develop this skill and create a ripple effect of positive resistance in society.

10. Consciously Choose Compliance When Necessary

In situations where defying carries too great a risk (financial, psychological, or physical) or the benefits are too small, consciously choose compliance and defer defiance for a safer or more impactful moment.