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#082 The Science of Vigorous Exercise — Should We Train Hard or Train Long? | Martin Gibala, Ph.D.

Sep 19, 2023 2h 51m 52 insights
<p dir="ltr">Dr. Martin Gibala is a muscle physiologist, professor, and kinesiology department chair at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. He is best known for pioneering research on the health benefits of high-intensity interval training (HIIT) and his profound understanding of HIIT's physiological mechanisms. He is a co-author of the book "The One-Minute Workout."</p> <p><strong>In this episode, we discuss:</strong></p> <ul> <li><strong>(00:00)</strong> Introduction</li> <li><strong>(11:00)</strong> What is high-intensity training?</li> <li><strong>(11:53)</strong> Zone 2 vs. HIIT for VO2 max — which is better?</li> <li><strong>(13:22)</strong> The vital role of vigorous exercise</li> <li><strong>(14:40)</strong> Why VO2 max matters for longevity</li> <li><strong>(17:45)</strong> Why athletes vs. exercisers benefit from different intensity distributions</li> <li><strong>(22:09)</strong> Measuring maximum heart rate and VO2 max</li> <li><strong>(30:31)</strong> How the heart adapts to HIIT to increase VO2 max</li> <li><strong>(35:47)</strong> Why vigorous exercise accelerates mitochondrial adaptation</li> <li><strong>(40:06)</strong> Enhancing fat oxidation and mitochondrial growth with vigorous exercise</li> <li><strong>(44:22)</strong> How intensive exercise boosts fat breakdown</li> <li><strong>(45:56)</strong> Is high-intensity exercise better for autophagy than fasting?</li> <li><strong>(55:15)</strong> Exercise snacks</li> <li><strong>(57:55)</strong> Why 'choosing the stairs' reduces early death (VILPA study)</li> <li><strong>(1:00:39)</strong> Protocol for VO2 max</li> <li><strong>(1:05:50)</strong> The effect of HIIT on muscle fiber types</li> <li><strong>(1:10:18)</strong> How aging effects muscle fibers</li> <li><strong>(1:14:09)</strong> Does high-intensity training produce an "afterburn effect?"</li> <li><strong>(1:16:13)</strong> Why vigorous workouts are better for BDNF and cognition</li> <li><strong>(1:23:15)</strong> Anti-metastatic cancer effects</li> <li><strong>(1:50:23)</strong> Wingate training vs. reHIIT — a comparison of protocols</li> <li><strong>(1:55:38)</strong> Perceived exertion vs. HRmax</li> <li><strong>(1:59:23)</strong> Interval walking for people with type 2 diabetes</li> <li><strong>(2:01:06)</strong> Contraindications of HIIT</li> <li><strong>(2:05:06)</strong> Why preconditioning reduces risks from exercise</li> <li><strong>(2:10:44)</strong> Can resistance training be a type of aerobic exercise?</li> <li><strong>(2:16:24)</strong> Does cardio and strength training interfere with each other?</li> <li><strong>(2:18:45)</strong> How many minutes per week of high-intensity training?</li> <li><strong>(2:26:58)</strong> Are there sex differences and misconceptions in high-intensity training, for women?</li> <li><strong>(2:27:42)</strong> Should post-menopausal women do H.I.I.T.?</li> <li><strong>(2:27:47)</strong> Does intense exercise raise cortisol?</li> <li><strong>(2:34:16)</strong> Bone density and osteoarthritis</li> <li><strong>(2:36:40)</strong> Atrial fibrillation risk</li> <li><strong>(2:39:20)</strong> Hypoxic training and blood flow restriction</li> <li><strong>(2:40:45)</strong> Tips for training with joint issues</li> </ul> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://youtu.be/anzG6tVdjkQ">Watch this episode on YouTube</a></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.foundmyfitness.com/episodes/martin-gibala">Show notes are available by clicking here</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Join over 300,000 people and get the latest distilled information straight to your inbox several times per month: <a href="https://www.foundmyfitness.com/newsletter">https://www.foundmyfitness.com/newsletter</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Become a FoundMyFitness premium member to get access to exclusive episodes, emails, live Q+A's with Rhonda and more: <a href="https://www.foundmyfitness.com/crowdsponsor">https://www.foundmyfitness.com/premium</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Learn more about the premium podcast The Aliquot: <a href="https://www.foundmyfitness.com/aliquot">https://www.foundmyfitness.com/aliquot</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Avoid Sedentary Lifestyle

Prioritize physical activity and actively avoid a sedentary lifestyle, as remaining sedentary poses the greatest risk to your health.

2. Escape Low Fitness Range

To achieve the most significant health benefits, focus on elevating your physical activity or VO2 max level out of the low fitness range.

3. Integrate Vigorous Daily Activity (VILPA)

Embed short bursts of vigorous effort (e.g., taking stairs quickly, walking briskly) into your daily routine and activities, known as Vigorous Intermittent Lifestyle Physical Activity (VILPA).

4. Daily VILPA for Longevity

Aim for at least three to four minutes of VILPA daily, as it’s associated with substantial reductions (25-30%) in all-cause mortality risks.

5. VILPA Benefits Everyone

Engage in VILPA-like activities regardless of your current exercise habits, as it provides protective health benefits for both non-exercisers and committed exercisers.

6. Break Sedentary Time with VILPA

Use VILPA or exercise snacks to simultaneously break up prolonged periods of sedentary behavior, offering a double benefit for health.

7. Exercise Based on Enjoyment

Select an exercise type you genuinely enjoy, whether vigorous intermittent or continuous moderate, as personal preference is crucial for consistent adherence.

8. Prioritize Intensity for Efficiency

To be healthy even on busy days and achieve more with less time, focus on greater intensity in your workouts, making every minute count.

9. Maximize Benefits with HIIT

Incorporate High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) into routines to create more physiological stress in a short period, yielding nearly exponential benefits for the time invested.

10. Short Vigorous Workouts for VO2 Max

Engage in more vigorous or high-intensity exercise for shorter periods to achieve similar improvements in VO2 max, especially if time-pressed.

11. Vigorous Exercise for VO2 Max Responders

If moderate-intensity exercise isn’t improving your VO2 max, consider engaging in more vigorous exercise, as it can eliminate non-response in some individuals.

12. Boost Cardiorespiratory Fitness

Strive for higher cardiorespiratory fitness, as elite levels are associated with a nearly 80% lower risk of mortality compared to less-fit peers.

13. Intense Exercise Boosts Fat Oxidation

Engage in high-intensity exercise, even above traditional ‘fat-burning zones,’ to improve your overall ability to oxidize fat in the long term.

14. Exercise for Mitochondrial Health

Engage in regular exercise to support the routine maintenance and turnover of cellular processes, promoting overall mitochondrial health and capacity.

15. Boost Mitochondria for Fuel Oxidation

Focus on increasing mitochondrial content in your muscles, which enhances both fat and carbohydrate oxidation capacity, achievable through various methods including short, intensive exercise.

16. Exercise Lowers Blood Sugar

Engage in exercise to increase glucose transport capacity on muscle cell membranes, which helps move more glucose into muscles, lowering chronically high blood sugar levels.

17. Exercise Reduces Diabetic Medication

If you have diabetes, starting an exercise program can improve muscle fitness and glucose transport, potentially allowing for a reduction in diabetic medication.

18. Vigorous Exercise for Insulin Sensitivity

Consider incorporating vigorous, high-intensity exercise, as some evidence suggests it can lead to greater improvements in markers of insulin sensitivity.

19. Venture Beyond Comfort Zone

Engage in vigorous exercise and push past your comfort zone to unlock unique and perhaps unrecognized benefits that are otherwise elusive.

20. Vigorous Exercise for Cognition

Engage in vigorous exercise that pushes past the lactate threshold to potentially achieve unique cognitive enhancement.

21. Elevate Lactate for Brain Health

During high-intensity workouts, aim to increase your lactate levels, as this is correlated with improved executive function and may offer benefits for neurodegenerative disease prevention.

22. Intense Exercise for Blood Flow

Engage in more intense exercise to increase blood flow and sheer force, which offers dose-dependent benefits for brain health and may disrupt circulating tumor cells.

23. Vigorous Exercise & Cancer Risk

Incorporate vigorous exercise into your routine, as it may reduce the risk of cancer metastasis by introducing mechanical stress to cancer cells.

24. Strength Train for Fast-Twitch Fibers

Engage in strength training to maintain the viability of fast-twitch muscle fibers, which are progressively lost with age and are important for power and preventing falls.

25. HIIT for Body Composition

Incorporate High-Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) to support weight management and improve body composition, potentially leading to a slight loss of fat mass and an increase in lean mass.

26. Utilize HIIT’s Afterburn Effect

Leverage the ‘afterburn effect’ (heightened metabolism post-HIIT) to burn more calories in recovery, as these small differences can accumulate over time.

27. Daily Exercise Snacks

Engage in ’exercise snacks’ – less than or equal to one minute of vigorous intensity exercise (e.g., jumping on a stationary bike, air squats) – at least four or five times a day.

28. Target 80% Max Heart Rate

For high-intensity exercise, aim for a relative heart rate of about 80% of your maximum heart rate.

29. Measure Max Heart Rate Directly

To accurately determine your maximal heart rate, either run a 400-meter loop as hard as possible or progressively increase intensity on a stationary bike until exhaustion, measuring your heart rate directly.

30. Estimate VO2 Max with Calculator

Utilize the ‘World Fitness Calculator’ online to get a reasonable estimate of your VO2 max and track changes over time, even if the precise number isn’t 100% accurate.

31. Submaximal Tests for VO2 Max

For a more personalized VO2 max estimate than an online questionnaire, perform submaximal exercise tests like a shuttle run or beep test, which provide direct data on your physical capacity.

32. Beginner Interval Walking

If new to exercise, start interval training by walking fast for a few light posts, then backing off, and repeating this pattern without worrying about specific heart rate percentages.

33. Vary Walking Pace with Intervals

Enhance the benefits of walking by adding gentle intervals, slightly varying your pace to create hills and valleys of effort, even if not full sprint training.

34. Start Intervals Beyond Comfort Zone

Begin interval training by pushing slightly beyond your comfort zone for a short period (e.g., walking faster for two light posts), then recovering, and repeating.

35. Vary Your Exercise Regimen

Adopt a varied training approach, similar to diversifying investments, by incorporating different types of exercise, including short, sharp, and hard efforts, for overall fitness.

36. Add Longer Intervals for VO2 Max

If primarily doing short sprint-style intervals (like Tabata), consider incorporating longer intervals (3-5 minutes) at the highest sustainable intensity to maximize VO2 max gains.

37. Maximize VO2 Max with 3-5 Min Intervals

To maximize gains in VO2 max, perform three to five minute repeats at the highest sustainable intensity.

38. 1-Minute On/Off Intervals for VO2 Max

Incorporate 1-minute on, 1-minute off intervals, repeated 5 to 10 times, for significant improvements in VO2 max, with 5 repeats offering substantial benefits.

39. Vary Interval & Recovery Periods

To optimize training and challenge your body in different ways, vary the duration of your high-intensity intervals and recovery periods.

40. Perform the ‘One Minute Workout’

Engage in the ‘One Minute Workout’ protocol: three 20-second vigorous intervals with recovery in between, plus a 5-minute total warm-up and cool-down, for a 10-minute total workout.

41. Try Reduced Exertion HIIT (re-HIT)

Engage in re-HIT, a 10-minute workout involving one to two 10-20 second very high-power efforts, which feels less uncomfortable than longer sprints due to shorter duration.

42. 4-Second All-Out Sprints

Engage in 4-second all-out efforts followed by 12 seconds of recovery, repeated multiple times, as even deconditioned individuals can achieve high power outputs with this method.

43. High-Intensity Bodyweight Training

Incorporate high-intensity bodyweight exercises (e.g., calisthenics, air squats, burpees) as a form of interval resistance training to gain both strength and aerobic conditioning efficiently.

44. Combine Functional & Aerobic Training

For a balanced approach, combine high-intensity functional or bodyweight training with aerobic interval training (e.g., on a bike or elliptical) across your weekly sessions.

45. Separate Training for Maximal Gains

To maximize gains from both aerobic and resistance training, ideally separate these sessions by a few hours rather than performing them back-to-back.

46. Interval Training for Chronic Conditions

Consider interval training even if you have cardiometabolic diseases, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, or are older, as many individuals can safely perform and benefit from it.

47. HIIT over Inactivity, Moderate First

If the choice is between HIIT and no exercise, choose HIIT; if deconditioned or older, start with moderate exercise as preconditioning before moving to more intense interval training.

48. Avoid Vigorous Exercise with Angina

Do not engage in vigorous intensity exercise if you have certain conditions like unstable angina or atrial fibrillation; consult a doctor for clearance.

49. Low-Impact Exercise for Joint Issues

If you have joint injuries or osteoarthritis, remain active by choosing less weight-bearing activities like cycling, which allows for vigorous exercise without damaging the joints.

50. HIIT Doesn’t Cause Chronic High Cortisol

Do not worry about high-intensity interval training causing chronically elevated cortisol levels, as evidence suggests basal cortisol levels may even stay lower in those who practice it.

51. Be Mindful of Extreme Exercise Risk

If you are an extreme exerciser (very high intensity, very high volume over a lifetime), be mindful that this may carry some increased cardiovascular risk.

52. Explore Blood Flow Restriction Training

Consider exploring blood flow restricted training, as there is interesting ongoing work suggesting potential benefits, especially for those with joint issues.