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Pulitzer Prize-Winning Novelist Jennifer Egan On: Panic, Awe, Fetishizing Authenticity, and Our Possible AI Futures

Jul 24, 2023 1h 16m 31 insights
<p><em>New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers.</em></p> <p>---</p> <p>Jennifer Egan is not only a novelist, she's also written short stories and award-winning magazine journalism. She's one of those writers who can both spin a fascinating yarn and load it up with insights into everything from human nature to the future of technology, all while pulling off bewitching turns of phrase; what the writer Jonathan Franzen has called "micro felicities." </p> <p><br /></p> <p>Egan is as funny, fascinating, and open IRL as she is on the page although it's not clear <em>she</em> feels that way given she talks about how much smarter she feels in writing than in speaking!</p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>In this episode we talk about:</strong></p> <p><br /></p> <ul> <li>Egan's writing process </li> <li>The power of writing by hand </li> <li>The shocking, relentless, ruthless discipline that she imposes on herself to never do the same thing twice as she's writing</li> <li>Curiosity, awe, and panic attacks</li> <li>How she handles feedback</li> <li>Her feelings of insubstantiality </li> <li>Our cultures fetishization of authenticity</li> <li>The impact of success on her work</li> <li>AI and our possible technological futures</li> </ul> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Full Shownotes:</strong> <a href="https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/jennifer-egan" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/jennifer-egan</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Prune Creative Habits

Actively work against what you’ve done before and ‘prune’ your own habits to encourage growth in new ways, seeking novelty and avoiding repetition in creative endeavors.

2. Practice Relentless Writing Discipline

Never allow yourself to do the same thing twice when writing to encourage growth and freshness in your work, and consider handwriting to access deeper thinking.

3. Cultivate Discomfort Tolerance

Develop a high tolerance for discomfort, as actually doing the thing you’re afraid of is often what solves the problem and helps you move forward.

4. Embrace Discomfort for Freshness

Be willing to experience brief discomfort by letting go of old approaches that aren’t working, as this can lead to a sense of relief, possibility, and freshness in your work.

5. Cultivate Curiosity for Joy

Actively cultivate genuine curiosity, as it eliminates boredom, makes everything interesting, provides access to complications, and acts as a joy provider by waking up your surroundings to possibilities and treasures.

6. Write to Enhance Clarity

Engage in writing to think more clearly, make discoveries, and understand your own thinking in ways not possible without it.

7. Handwrite First Drafts

Write your first drafts by hand (in cursive) to achieve a meditative or concentrating quality, detach from the world, and access deeper levels of thinking and originality.

8. Bypass Premature Self-Criticism

Use handwriting to bypass the critical part of your brain that censors and tries to fix things too early, allowing for a more relaxed and forward-moving drafting process.

9. Edit on Hard Copies

Print out your work and edit by hand on hard copies, as this process can lead to significant improvements and new ideas.

10. Practice Seeking Feedback

Develop the habit of regularly asking for feedback in all areas of your life—work, relationships, and personal endeavors—as this willingness is a muscle that can lead to positive growth.

11. Rely on External Feedback

As your own ability to read your work freshly diminishes, become increasingly dependent on the voices of other people to provide objective feedback and help you achieve your vision.

12. Overcome Feedback Aversion

When receiving uncomfortable criticism, allow your brain’s problem-solving mechanisms to kick in, as this focus on solutions can distract from negative emotions and help you benefit from good advice.

13. Perform Due Diligence with Experts

When writing about subjects or experiences outside your direct knowledge, perform due diligence by having at least one person who knows that area better review your work to ensure accuracy and authenticity.

14. Manage Internal Self-Criticism

Recognize and learn to manage your internal ‘abusive boss’ or harsh self-talk, understanding that the best response is often to simply do the work and improve self-management over time.

15. Counter Self-Abuse with Action

When experiencing harsh self-talk or an unsupportive internal working environment, the best answer is to simply focus on doing the work, as action can be the solution to internal conflict.

16. Manage Negative Self-Talk

On days filled with self-critical thoughts, recognize it as a day ’to not listen to myself’ and try to work around it, using tools like exercise to shift your state of mind.

17. Build Faith in Your Ability

Over time, cultivate faith that feelings of inadequacy or self-doubt do not necessarily mean you cannot accomplish a task; these feelings can be present while still moving forward.

18. Write for Control and Steadiness

Engage in writing as an act of control, which can instill a sense of empowerment to respond to the world and create steadiness, especially during anxious moments.

19. Activate Thinking Brain to Cut Panic

When experiencing panic, engage your prefrontal cortex (the thinking brain) through activities like writing to help deactivate the amygdala (fear center) and cut the panic.

20. Read Fiction to Calm Panic

When experiencing panic, try reading fiction, as it can engage a part of the brain that helps to calm and soothe.

21. Seek Novelty for Growth

Approach your work as a thrill seeker, actively avoiding repetition to ensure continuous discovery, growth, and a sense of excitement in your creative process.

22. Focus on External Curiosity

If you find your own experiences less engaging, shift your focus to curiosity about other people’s lives and external subjects, as this can be a source of discovery and creative inspiration.

23. Embrace ‘Nosiness’ for Learning

Allow yourself to be ’nosy’ and delight in hearing people’s stories and learning about anything, as this curiosity helps transcend the limits of individual experience and expands your perception of the world’s enormity.

24. Connect Insignificance to Awe

To truly perceive and appreciate the enormity and mystery of the world, allow yourself to feel the tininess, even vanishing, of your own individual life, as this connection is a pathway to experiencing awe.

25. Maintain Perspective on Success

When experiencing success, remain grateful and aware of the role of luck, understanding that many others are equally deserving, to keep a grounded perspective and avoid false humility.

26. Discard Distractions, Focus

After acknowledging success and good fortune, consciously set aside accolades and personal achievements to prevent them from becoming distractions that detract from the quality of your core work.

27. Be Wary of Amplified Topics

Recognize that highly amplified and constant conversations, especially those tending toward hysteria, can have a distorting effect on the topic itself, and approach such discussions with caution.

28. Beware Language Speaking You

Recognize when language and arguments are ‘speaking you’ by using predictable words, phrases, and arguments you’ve heard, and strive to get beyond this to more original thought.

29. Tailor Feedback Thoughtfully

When giving feedback, carefully observe the signals from the person asking for it and consider their current phase in the process to provide the most helpful and appropriate response.

30. Respect Individual Processes

While seeking feedback, acknowledge and respect that everyone’s creative process is radically different, and avoid presuming to dictate how others should create.

31. Know Your Mind’s Limits

Understand your own brain’s predispositions and sensitivities to altered states, as what might be transcendent for some could lead to feeling lost or unable to return for others.