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Naomi Klein on How To Stay Sane In An Increasingly Warped Online World

Sep 25, 2023 1h 3m 14 insights
<p><em>New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers.</em></p> <p>---</p> <p>Klein goes down the rabbit hole after learning she has a digital doppelgänger who has gone all in on conspiracies.</p> <p><br /></p> <p><a href="https://naomiklein.org/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Naomi Klein</a> is an award-winning journalist and New York Times bestselling author. Her most recent book is <a href="https://naomiklein.org/doppelganger/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Doppelganger: A Trip into the Mirror World</em></a>. She is a columnist with The Guardian. In 2018 she was named the inaugural Gloria Steinem Endowed Chair at Rutgers University and is now Honorary Professor of Media and Climate at Rutgers. In September 2021 she joined the University of British Columbia as UBC Professor of Climate Justice and co-director of the Centre for Climate Justice.</p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>In this episode we talk about:</strong></p> <ul> <li>Why she says conspiracy culture often gets the facts wrong but the feelings right</li> <li>How and why you should listen to people on the other side of the aisle</li> <li>The convergence of wellness culture and rightwing ideology</li> <li>The precariousness of the self</li> <li>How she learned to loosen the death grip on her ego</li> <li>And the importance of coming from a place of calm in the storm</li> </ul> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Related Episodes:</strong></p> <p>Ten Percent Happier: <a href="https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/dacher-keltner-546#:~:text=%7C%20Dacher%20Keltner,-Ten%20Percent%20Happier&amp;text=Our%20guest%20today%20is%20one,to%20one%20thing%3A%20finding%20awe." rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This Scientist Says One Emotion Might Be the Key to Happiness. Can You Guess What It Is? | Dacher Keltner</a></p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Full Shownotes:</strong> <a href="https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/naomi-klein" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/naomi-klein</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Loosen Ego’s Grip

Practice loosening the ‘death grip’ on your individual self or ego through methods like meditation, embodied practices, or engaging in collective movements, recognizing the futility of excessive self-protection to foster connection and solidarity.

2. Cultivate Empathy

Engage in more empathy work, recognizing that others’ beliefs and actions might stem from their unique life conditions and wounds, which can reduce feelings of separation or superiority.

3. Define Core Values

Before exploring ideologies or information from those you disagree with, clearly define your core values and beliefs to maintain your bearings and avoid being swayed.

4. Listen Across Ideologies

Listen to people on the other side of the ideological spectrum with intellectual humility, seeking points of agreement to build bridges and understand potential harms, especially to help those who may have been radicalized.

5. Engage in Collective Action

Engage in civic and political life by finding and building relationships with others, recognizing that systemic problems require collective political action, not just individual efforts.

6. Seek “Unselfing” Experiences

Seek out experiences of ‘unselfing’ by beholding beauty in nature or art, allowing yourself to enter a state of wonder, openness, and porousness where self-consciousness fades.

7. Practice Controlled Calm

Strive for calm when engaging with distressing information or discussing serious issues, aiming to inspire thoughtful action rather than inducing panic, as panic hinders reasoning and empathy.

8. Foster Love as Motivation

Foster a deep love and connection with nature and other important aspects of life, as this love can become a fierce and sustainable motivation for protection and action against threats.

9. Combine Solitary & Social Practices

Supplement individual practices like meditation and embodied practices with finding and connecting with other people, to avoid loneliness and ensure solutions aren’t solely solitary or phone-based.

10. Question Corporate Influence

Engage in discussions about corporate media consolidation, dependence on drug company advertising, and real solutions for healthcare affordability, especially when these issues are co-opted by opposing ideologies.

11. Be Generous with Self & Others

Be generous with yourself and others regarding participation in systemic issues, acknowledging that we are all part of a system we didn’t create, and openly admit to personal struggles or contradictions to foster authenticity and relatability.

12. Avoid Individual Solutionism

Avoid overburdening the self with the belief that individual consumer choices alone can solve large global problems; instead, recognize that personal behavioral changes primarily serve as social communication that can inspire collective policy action.

13. Get Curious About Identity Confusion

When facing identity confusion or being mistaken for others, get curious about the phenomenon instead of being defensive, to learn what message it might be sending.

14. Try Meditation App

Try the 10% with Dan Harris meditation app for guided meditations to help with stress, anxiety, sleep, focus, self-compassion, and access weekly live Zoom community sessions.