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I Just Did A 10-Day Silent Meditation Retreat With Joseph Goldstein. Here's What I Learned

Sep 11, 2024 1h 18m 28 insights
<p><em>New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers.</em></p> <p><em>---</em></p> <p>Meditation retreats are the object of much intrigue and even suspicion. So today, we're going to take you inside a 10-day silent meditation retreat that Dan recently did with his teacher, Joseph Goldstein. You'll also hear from Senior Producer, Marissa Schneiderman, who was fresh off a retreat of her own, with meditation teachers Alexis Santos and Andrea Fella. </p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>In this episode we talk about:</strong></p> <ul> <li>The ups and downs of retreats</li> <li>Some famous Buddhist listicles, including the five hindrances</li> <li>The importance of repetition</li> <li>We'll hear snippets of Joseph answering Dan's questions</li> <li>We find out what "cowboy dharma" is</li> <li>What it feels like to wear shit colored glasses</li> <li>How to stop getting caught in a mind trap</li> <li>And lastly, we listen to voicemails and answer audience questions! </li> </ul> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Related Episodes:</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/joseph-goldstein-598" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Joseph Goldstein On: How Not To Try Too Hard in Meditation, Why You Shouldn't "Waste Your Suffering," and the Value Of Seeing How Ridiculous You Are</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/alexis-santos-377" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#377. A More Relaxed Way to Meditate | Alexis Santos</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/spring-washam-zev-borow" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Everything You Wanted To Know About Meditation Retreats But Were Afraid To Ask | Spring Washam (And Dan's Close Friend, Zev Borow)</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.happierapp.com/podcast/tph/andrea-fella-327" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#327 Uprooting Your Delusions | Andrea Fella </a></p> <p><a href="https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/take-risks" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">How to Take Risks (an Experimental Episode) | Marissa Schneiderman</a></p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Sign up for Dan's weekly newsletter</strong> <a href="https://bit.ly/3QtGRqJ" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>here</strong></a></p> <p><strong>Follow Dan on social:</strong> <a href="https://bit.ly/3tGigG5" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Instagram</strong></a><strong>,</strong> <a href="https://bit.ly/3FOA84J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>TikTok</strong></a></p> <p><strong>Ten Percent Happier online</strong> <a href="https://bit.ly/46TZglY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>bookstore</strong></a></p> <p><strong>Subscribe to our</strong> <a href="https://bit.ly/3FybRzD" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>YouTube Channel</strong></a></p> <p><strong>Our favorite playlists on:</strong> <a href="https://spoti.fi/3Qa8kMT" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Anxiety</strong></a><strong>,</strong> <a href="https://spoti.fi/3MjtMxF" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Sleep</strong></a><strong>,</strong> <a href="https://spoti.fi/3QvyA5J" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Relationships</strong></a><strong>,</strong> <a href="https://spoti.fi/3QxZASc" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>Most Popular Episodes</strong></a></p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Full Shownotes:</strong> <a href="https://happierapp.com/podcast/tph/retreat-episode-829" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://happierapp.com/podcast/tph/retreat-episode-829</a></p> <p><br /></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Practice Non-Clinging

Focus on non-clinging as the ultimate goal of practice, rather than seeking specific experiences like ‘selflessness,’ which can become a subtle form of craving. The freedom of mind lies in not clinging to anything that arises.

2. Observe Thoughts as Empty

Practice seeing thoughts as ’little more than nothing’ and ’empty of self,’ rather than taking them seriously or personally. This helps to reduce their power over you and prevents acting them out blindly.

3. Use ‘Not Mine, Not I, Not Myself’

To cultivate selflessness and non-clinging, mentally repeat the phrase ’not mine, not I, not myself’ when observing thoughts, emotions, perceptions, or bodily sensations. Start with easily observable phenomena and gradually extend to more difficult objects like thoughts and emotions.

4. Practice ‘Gamer Dharma’ Playfully

Playfully observe hindrances (like doubt, aversion, or self-judgment) as they arise, seeing them with clear mindfulness, smiling at them, and ‘shooting them with a Nerf gun’ to depersonalize them without aggression. Ensure this approach is not rooted in aversion but in gentle, accepting awareness.

5. Cultivate All-Day Awareness

Practice ‘awareness’ in all daily activities (walking, sleeping, moving, eating) rather than just formal meditation, trusting that wisdom will arise from continuous awareness. This allows things to feel more relaxed and open.

6. Recognize Delusion in Beliefs

Actively investigate deeply rooted beliefs that you mistake for facts (e.g., ’no one likes me’), recognizing them as ‘delusion’ to unlock new perspectives. This helps to see the world without the ‘shit-colored glasses’ of your conditioned attitudes.

7. Identify Suffering as Unmindfulness

When experiencing suffering, investigate it as an indication that there is something you are not fully mindful of, and bring awareness to it. As long as you are aware of the specific emotion, it transforms from a problem into an object of observation.

8. Surrender to the Dharma

Cultivate ‘faith’ (trust or confidence) in the Dharma by surrendering to the practice, even when it feels difficult or unproductive. When practice feels stagnant, simplify your approach to ‘just sit and walk,’ persevering in the basic instructions.

9. Cultivate Spiritual Friendships

Actively cultivate and participate in a community of fellow practitioners (Sangha), recognizing it as an essential and often undervalued part of the practice. This provides support and makes the path easier, especially during retreats.

10. Record & Re-listen to Teachings

Record and re-listen to important teachings or conversations (e.g., with a teacher) in small chunks over subsequent days, especially during other routine activities like stretching. This helps to better absorb and integrate complex information that might be missed in the initial hearing.

11. Embrace Repetition for Growth

To counteract forgetting in personal growth, commit to repeated exposure to teachings and insights, as they need to be heard and revisited continuously. This deep listening allows insights to land more deeply over time.

12. Expect Initial Retreat Challenges

Expect the first few days of a meditation retreat to be challenging, marked by sleepiness, doubt, and loneliness, as this is a normal process of the mind settling and developing concentration (samadhi). Persevere through this initial difficulty.

13. Start with Traditional Retreats

For beginners, start with formal, traditional meditation retreats that have a set schedule and group setting. This is generally recommended over individualized ‘concierge’ retreats to gain foundational experience.

14. Practice Walking Meditation

Engage in walking meditation by bringing full attention to the feeling of your body moving through space, typically at a very slow pace. If distracted, gently restart your focus on the sensations.

15. Attend Dharma Talks

Attend Dharma talks or study Buddhist teachings to understand the intellectual infrastructure of meditation practice. This can provide inspiration and remind you of your purpose when practice feels difficult or ‘stupid’.

16. Communicate with Your Teacher

Communicate your struggles and preferences with your meditation teacher, as they may adapt instructions to better suit your individual needs. This personalized guidance can significantly enhance your practice.

17. Avoid Over-Intensity in Practice

Avoid being ‘super intense’ about meditation practice, such as tracking hours or trying to achieve a certain number of hours, as this can lead to misery despite intense experiences. Focus on gentle, consistent engagement.

18. Observe ‘Future Conversations’

Observe the habit of having ‘future conversations’ or imaginary dialogues in your mind, recognizing them as a form of being ‘caught’ in a story or mental proliferation. This observation helps to understand the unusefulness of such mental activity.

19. Try Different Meditation Forms

If you’ve had a difficult or ’traumatic’ experience with one form of meditation (e.g., loving kindness), consider trying a different form, such as straight mindfulness, to re-engage with practice more gently.

20. Monitor Inner Weather Off-Cushion

To regain motivation for meditation after a break or difficult experience, pay close attention to your ‘inner weather’ (mood, mental state) when you are not meditating. Noticing a stormier inner state can provide intrinsic motivation to return to practice.

21. Prioritize Relaxation on Retreat

When returning to meditation or retreat after a difficult experience, prioritize relaxation, sleep, and eating, allowing yourself to ‘sometimes meditate’ rather than rigidly ‘getting the job done.’ This fosters a gentler re-engagement.

22. Consult Teacher for Retreats

Consult with a meditation teacher who knows your practice to determine if a retreat is suitable for you, especially after difficult experiences. There is no single ‘right way’ to approach retreats, and personalized advice is valuable.

23. Focus on Moment-to-Moment Change

In meditation, focus on observing the moment-to-moment changes in experience rather than labeling entire days or sessions as ‘good’ or ‘bad.’ Recognize that impermanence is a core insight of the practice and avoid clinging to perceived outcomes.

24. Explore Accessible Retreat Options

To make retreats accessible, explore donation-based centers, scholarships, work-trade options, residential retreats (where you go home to sleep), or online retreats. Remember that you don’t have to do 10 days; shorter durations are also beneficial.

25. Plan Soft Retreat Reentry

Plan a ‘soft reentry’ after a meditation retreat by gradually re-engaging with family and friends and debriefing your experiences. Avoid immediately diving back into intense daily life to allow for smoother integration.

26. Practice Lightly, Time Not Factor

Approach spiritual practice with a sense of lightness and fun, understanding that it’s a long-term training process that requires consistent practice and patience. Release the expectation of specific timelines or progress, as ’time is not a factor’.

27. View Insights as Gifts

View the insights gained from retreat (e.g., recognizing delusion, observing imaginary conversations) as valuable ‘gifts’ for ongoing self-observation and practice in daily life. These are tools to continue working with.

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