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How To Handle Toxic Thoughts | Sebene Selassie and Jeff Warren

Aug 27, 2025 1h 9m 46 insights
<p dir="ltr">What to do when the voice in your head is an asshole.</p> <p><strong> </strong></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.sebeneselassie.com/">Sebene Selassie</a> is an author and meditation teacher. She writes the popular newsletter <a href="https://sebeneselassie.substack.com/about">remind me to love</a> and her first book is called, <a href="https://www.sebeneselassie.com/mybook">You Belong</a>. </p> <p dir="ltr"><strong> </strong></p> <p dir="ltr"><a href="https://jeffwarren.org/">Jeff Warren</a> is an author and meditation teacher. He writes the popular newsletter <a href="https://www.homebasewithjeff.com/">Home Base</a> and is the coauthor, along with Dan, of a book called <a href="https://jeffwarren.org/books/meditation-fidgety-skeptics/">Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics</a>. And he is the co-host of the <a href="https://www.mindbodpod.com/">mind/bod adventure pod</a>.</p> <p dir="ltr"><strong id="docs-internal-guid-669b68e7-7fff-6c40-920b-5cdfb1b0ac6b"><br /></strong><a href="https://soundcloud.com/aaron-drm">Aaron Schultz aka DJ DRM</a> has crisscrossed the globe for decades playing his own unique brand of dance music. Aaron is also a longtime meditator and Dharma practitioner in the Dharma Drum lineage of Chan Buddhism, and is a passionate devotee of GuanYin Bodhisattva.</p> <p><strong> </strong></p> <p dir="ltr">In this episode we talk about:</p> <ul> <li dir="ltr">How to relate to sticky stories and emotions </li> <li dir="ltr">How to face unpleasant feelings </li> <li dir="ltr">The 5 hindrances (that's a Buddhist list of the main problems that arise in meditation) and how sneaky they can be </li> <li dir="ltr">The potential pitfalls of a "good sit"</li> <li dir="ltr">The role of right effort in meditation </li> <li dir="ltr">How expectations make us suffer</li> <li dir="ltr">Neurodivergence</li> <li dir="ltr">Working with shame (and how it differs from wise remorse) </li> <li dir="ltr">The connection between dancing and the Dharma (and why Dan is too self-conscious to dance)</li> </ul> <p><strong><br /> <br /></strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Join Dan's online community <a href="http://www.danharris.com/">here</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Follow Dan on social: <a href="https://bit.ly/3tGigG5">Instagram</a>, <a href="https://bit.ly/3FOA84J">TikTok</a></p> <p dir="ltr">Subscribe to our <a href="https://bit.ly/3FybRzD">YouTube Channel</a></p> <p><strong><br /> <br /></strong></p> <p dir="ltr">On Sunday, September 21st from 1-5pm ET, join Dan and Leslie Booker at the New York Insight Meditation Center in NYC as they lead a workshop titled, "Heavily Meditated – The Dharma of Depression + Anxiety." This event is both in-person and online. Sign up <a href="https://www.nyimc.org/event/heavily-meditated/">here</a>! </p> <p><strong> </strong></p> <p dir="ltr">Get ready for another Meditation Party at Omega Institute! This in-person workshop brings together Dan with his friends and meditation teachers, Sebene Selassie, Jeff Warren, and for the first time, Ofosu Jones-Quartey. The event runs October 24th-26th. Sign up and learn more at <a href="http://eomega.org/workshops/meditation-party-2025">eomega.org/workshops/meditation-party-2025</a>.</p> <p><strong><br /> <br /></strong></p> <p dir="ltr">To advertise on the show, contact sales@advertisecast.com or visit <a href="https://advertising.libsyn.com/10HappierwithDanHarris">https://advertising.libsyn.com/10HappierwithDanHarris</a></p> <p><strong>
Actionable Insights

1. Reject Shame as Untrue

Recognize that shame is a toxic and fundamentally untrue belief that you are inherently bad or don’t deserve to exist; it has no useful purpose.

2. Distinguish Shame from Remorse

Differentiate between shame/guilt (self-focused and paralyzing) and wise remorse (acknowledging mistakes, making amends, and learning). Use self-compassion to move from shame to wise remorse, recognizing mistakes without deeming yourself ‘holistically horrible’.

3. Cultivate Complete Experiences

Aim for ‘complete experiences’ by being fully present, settled, concentrated, clear, and equanimous with whatever arises. This metabolizes old patterns and prevents new reactivity, leading to healing and peace.

4. Track Thoughts (See/Hear/Feel In)

Practice Shinzen Young’s ‘see in, feel in, hear in’ method to gain clarity on thinking. Identify where visual thoughts appear, where inner talk is heard, and where emotional body sensations are felt, then track these three components.

5. Focus on Presence as Core

The ’trunk’ of practice is not stillness, but consistently being present, accepting what is happening, letting go of distracting thoughts, and returning to your chosen object of attention.

6. Address Shame with Self-Compassion

When shame arises, practice self-compassion by treating yourself with the same kindness you’d offer a child. Concurrently, work with a trauma therapist to understand and heal the underlying origins of the shame.

7. Shift from Reactive to Receptive

Instead of reacting quickly to fix or control, cultivate a relaxed and receptive attitude. Allow what’s happening before consciously choosing to engage or return to a home base.

8. Welcome Difficult Emotions

When challenging emotions arise, welcome them with curiosity, inviting them in as if making space for a guest. Investigate their sensations and changes without judgment, shifting attention if overwhelming and returning when resourced.

9. Soften and Allow Difficulties

Instead of trying to manage or control difficulties with tightness, practice softening, slowing down, and allowing things to be. Ask ‘What’s happening right now?’ and ‘Can I allow this?’ to create space and bring a peaceful, allowing attitude.

10. Utilize Diverse Healing Tools

Recognize that meditation is not the only tool for working with sticky stories and trauma. Integrate therapy, community, and other healing modalities as appropriate for your specific challenges.

11. Examine Your Thoughts

Unexamined thoughts can feel all-encompassing, but when examined, they reveal their insubstantiality, becoming ’little more than nothing’.

12. Investigate Fleeting Thoughts

When you notice thinking, actively ‘go looking for the thought’ to observe its insubstantiality and ephemeral nature, which can be liberating.

13. Cultivate Interest in Distraction

Instead of getting upset when carried away by thoughts (the ‘whale’), cultivate interest in how thoroughly thoughts can hijack your attention.

14. View Experiences as Passing States

Approach all meditation experiences, whether blissful or challenging, as passing mind states, like meteorology, without craving or clinging to any particular outcome.

15. Mindfulness Reduces Suffering

If you are suffering, it indicates a lack of mindfulness. By being mindful of even unpleasant experiences and stories, the actual pain diminishes.

16. Reframe Emotions as Human

Recognize that emotions like grief are natural parts of the human experience and not inherently ‘bad’. It’s your relationship to them that can make them problematic.

17. Relate Consciously to Hindrances

Understand that hindrances (craving, aversion, restlessness, sloth, doubt) have intelligent counterparts. Practice relating to your life consciously rather than through unconscious, reactive habits.

18. Release Expectations for Meditation

Avoid bringing expectations to meditation, as anticipating a certain experience or performance on the cushion leads to suffering and disappointment.

19. Measure Quality by Awareness

The quality of a meditation session is measured by your level of awareness for whatever experience is present, not by the nature of the experience itself.

20. Recognize Self-Consciousness as Internal

Understand that inhibitions and self-consciousness are creations of your own mind, not external reality. You can therefore notice and work with them internally.

21. Dance With Self-Consciousness

Become aware of where self-consciousness manifests in your body and ‘dance with it’ by moving around it, playing with it, or simply noticing it. This creates space instead of collapsing into it.

22. Adapt Practice for Neurodivergence

If you have ADHD or similar neurodivergence, prioritize movement practices (yoga, swimming, Qigong, dancing) over stillness. Move ‘at the speed of awareness’ to cultivate presence in a way that aligns with your wiring.

23. Understand Shame vs. Remorse

Remember that remorse focuses on an action (‘I did something terrible’), while shame focuses on identity (‘I am terrible’).

24. Seek Freedom Beyond Limitations

Recognize that the ultimate fruit of practice is increased freedom, liberation, and a greater sense of possibility. This allows you to move more freely in all areas of life.

25. Meditate in a Group

Meditating as a group or having friends who take meditation seriously is incredibly powerful, supported by science, and can enhance your practice.

26. Apply Compassion to Old Stories

When old, sticky stories arise, use the compassion cultivated in meditation to settle yourself and prevent the story from escalating. Accept its presence without needing to change it.

27. Be a Friend to Yourself

Practice leaning into yourself and providing the same kind of friendship and support you would offer to a friend.

28. Heal Through Human Connection

Connecting with others who share similar struggles provides human connection and a sense of shared experience, which is inherently healing.

29. Label Intrusive Thoughts

For repetitive or intrusive thoughts, gently label them ‘dead end’ (as in, ‘is this useful?’) or ‘up and out’ to avoid entanglement, ensuring the labeling isn’t hostile.

30. Patiently Observe Mood Tunnels

Recognize when you’re caught in an ‘affective realism’ or ‘mood tunnel’ where emotions color all perceptions. Patiently work to see the underlying ’thing’ you’re in.

31. Value Spiritual Friendship

Having friends who also meditate or take spiritual practice seriously is incredibly powerful, as it allows you to do ’this stuff in the HOV lane’.

32. Meditate with Eyes Open

If you find your mind wandering easily with eyes closed, try meditating with a soft, open gaze. The visual world can help crowd out thinking and provide a sense of space.

33. Diversify Meditation Postures

Don’t limit meditation to sitting still with eyes closed; explore walking and standing practices to find what works best for you and to stay with difficult emotions.

34. Practice Walking Meditation

Engage in walking meditation, even at a slow-ish pace. The body’s movement through space can help you catch thoughts as they arise.

35. Practice Patience in Healing

Healing from deep-seated stories and patterns through meditation requires patience, as it’s an organic, long-term process.

36. Acknowledge Self-Awareness

Recognizing your own subtle aversions or missteps in practice is a sign of mindfulness and interest, which is the opposite of delusion, and indicates progress.

37. Reconnect with Dance for Freedom

Recognize that dance has historically been a universal way to connect to freedom across cultures and generations. Consider reconnecting with it as a practice.

38. Use Dance to Track Self-Consciousness

View dancing as a fertile ground to track and notice feelings of self-consciousness, group safety, and societal norms you’ve internalized.

39. Lower Bar for Group Participation

To encourage others, fearlessly act ’like an idiot’ or set a very low bar for participation. This gives others permission to drop their inhibitions and join in.

40. Create Judgement-Free Environment

To help people drop inhibitions, especially in dance, create an environment with low lights or other elements that make people feel less observed and judged.

41. Express Inner Freedom Through Dance

View dance as a direct expression of your inherent freedom or ‘Buddha nature’, allowing it to be a liberating practice.

42. Embody ‘Dance Like No One’s Watching’

Consciously embody the adage ‘dance like no one’s watching’ when dancing, actively bringing that mindset to the forefront.

43. Practice Ecstatic Dance for Release

Engage in ‘Ecstatic Dance’ or similar practices in comfortable spaces to drop inhibitions, allow freedom of movement, and experience cathartic emotional release.

44. Practice Contemplation of Sound

Engage in contemplation of sound by sitting and listening without naming or conceptualizing what you hear. Simply be present with the auditory experience.

45. Engage in Structured Group Dance

To overcome self-consciousness in dance, participate in or organize structured group dances where the focus is on collective movement and learning steps, rather than individual free expression.

46. Model Self-Compassion for Others

Practice and model self-compassion not just for your own benefit, but also to teach and demonstrate healthy emotional responses to those around you, especially children.