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How to Disentangle from Toxic People | Lindsay C. Gibson

Jun 28, 2023 1h 14m 17 insights
<p><em>New episodes come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for free, with 1-week early access for Wondery+ subscribers.</em></p> <p>---</p> <p>Our relationships are the most important variable in our health and happiness, but they may also be the most difficult. This is especially true when those closest to us turn out to be emotionally immature people.</p> <p><br /></p> <p>Lindsay C. Gibson is a clinical psychologist and bestselling author who specializes in helping people identify and deal with emotionally immature people, or EIP's. Her first appearance on our show was one of our most popular episodes of 2022. Now she's back to offer concrete strategies for handling the EIP's in your life, wherever you may find them. Her new book is called <em>Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People.</em></p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>In this episode we talk about:</strong></p> <ul> <li>A primer on the cardinal characteristics of emotionally immature people (EIP's), how to spot them, and why you might want to</li> <li>What Lindsay means by "disentangling" from EIP's, and how to do it</li> <li>What often happens to your own sense of self when you're in relationship (or even just in conversation) with an EIP </li> <li>How to interact with an EIP </li> <li>How to prevent brain scramble when you're talking with someone who isn't making any attempt to understand what you're saying  </li> <li>How she reacts when she comes across EIP's in her everyday life</li> <li>Whether it's possible to have some immature characteristics without being an EIP</li> <li>Handling your own emotionally immature tendencies  </li> <li>Whether or not EIP's can change</li> <li>The limits of estrangement</li> <li>Why she encourages "alternatives to forgiveness"</li> </ul> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>For tickets to TPH's live event in Boston on September 7:</strong></p> <p><a href="https://thewilbur.com/armory/artist/dan-harris/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://thewilbur.com/armory/artist/dan-harris/</a></p> <p><br /></p> <p><strong>Full Shownotes:</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/lindsay-c-gibson-617" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/lindsay-c-gibson-617</a></p>
Actionable Insights

1. Cultivate Good Relationships

Actively work to cultivate good relationships with others. This is crucial for your happiness, as loneliness can significantly degrade both psychological and physiological well-being.

2. Reconceptualize Your Individuality

Actively work to see yourself as an important individual who is psychologically real and just as important as everyone else. This self-perception serves as a powerful antidote to the conditioning often experienced in emotionally immature relationships, which can diminish your sense of self and worth.

3. Seek Emotionally Mature Relationships

Actively seek out and cultivate relationships with emotionally mature individuals, such as therapists, spouses, or best friends. Interacting with people who recognize your individuality, treat you as psychologically real, and attune to your thoughts and feelings helps you develop your own sense of self and agency.

4. Focus on Your Own Needs

Prioritize paying attention to what you want, how you feel, and what you believe is right, and establish boundaries to create space for this self-awareness. This practice helps you take care of yourself first, especially when you might otherwise be consumed by an emotionally immature person’s desires.

5. Boost Self-Awareness in Relationships

When a relationship feels unbalanced or you feel taken advantage of, become highly observant and objective about what’s happening. Mentally narrate the other person’s behavior to yourself to increase your objectivity and prevent being emotionally pulled into an entangled dynamic.

6. Practice Mindfulness for Authenticity

During interactions with emotionally immature people (EIPs), use mindfulness and self-awareness to discern whether you are being your authentic self or merely conforming to what they want you to be. This helps you avoid losing your sense of self by playing into their expectations.

7. Spot Emotionally Immature People

Be aware of and actively look for the cardinal characteristics of emotional immaturity in others. Identifying EIPs early is crucial to avoid entering into difficult long-term relationships, whether personal or professional, that will be challenging to navigate when problems arise.

8. Observe EIP Behavior Over Time

Pay close attention to how people cope with life, handle disagreements, and react when things don’t go their way as you get to know them. This observation over time helps you identify emotionally immature patterns and avoid difficult entanglements.

9. Trust Your Gut on Relationships

Pay attention to your reactions when someone gives you the cold shoulder, speaks curtly, or avoids discussing problems. These are early indicators that you might be in an emotionally immature relationship where you’re expected to be an emotional caretaker, which can become tiring.

10. Set Discreet, Realistic Goals

When engaging in difficult interactions with an EIP, set a specific, achievable goal for that interaction that does not involve fundamentally changing the other person or the relationship. This approach helps you remain self-possessed and calm, increasing the likelihood of achieving your desired outcome.

11. Repeat Your Position Consistently

When an EIP attempts to shift, evade, or deny during an interaction, consistently repeat your point of view or position. EIPs often back off or halt the interaction when faced with such perseverance, as they are accustomed to others giving in.

12. Recognize Brain Scramble as Normal

Understand that experiencing ‘brain scramble’—losing your thoughts, feeling confused, or self-doubt—is a normal side effect of interacting with an EIP who isn’t genuinely listening or interested in your perspective. This awareness helps you realize it’s a characteristic of their interactional style, not a personal failing.

13. Prevent Brain Scramble

To prevent brain scramble during interactions with EIPs, go into the conversation with a simplified, focused outcome in mind. This strategy helps you avoid getting sidetracked by their disorienting tactics and maintain your clarity.

14. Inner Work for Estrangement

If you choose complete estrangement from an EIP, also seek therapy or engage in significant inner work to address the internalized patterns and emotional impact of the relationship. Physical distance alone may not resolve the psychological patterning carried within you, making inner work crucial for strengthening your individuality.

15. Process Feelings, Don’t Force Forgiveness

Instead of forcing yourself to forgive, focus on working through the feelings associated with past hurts from emotionally immature people and integrate those experiences into your individuality. Forgiveness cannot be compelled and may not be necessary for your recovery; processing your emotions and strengthening your sense of self are more impactful for healing.

16. Cultivate Ongoing Self-Reflection

Actively engage in self-reflection when your own emotionally immature tendencies are brought to your attention, and consciously choose how you want to behave. This allows you to nurture desired qualities, align your actions with your principles, and foster ongoing personal growth and increased self-esteem.

17. Recognize Your Own EIP Tendencies

Be aware of and notice when you are displaying your own emotionally immature tendencies or behaviors, internally or externally. Recognizing these tendencies is the essential first step towards self-reflection and consciously choosing to develop in a more mature way.